They make it sound like there's some law that mandates that a pregnant woman who was a victim of rape or incest ... MUST have an abortion.

It's HER CHOICE ASSHOLES, it's not a 'second violent act', it's MITIGATING (at least in some way) the violent act she was subjected to in the first place you stupid fucks.

My DOG I hate these fucking people.

Really? I am so happy a bunch of demented old men who probably still think of them as studs are there to pick and choose what is an actual violent act against a raped woman.

How about being forced to carry the child of a rape, pretty damned violent. How about birth, that is no picnic even when you want the child. How about having to spend your entire life raising a child from a rape, working 2 or 3 jobs just to barely make ends meet in poverty and being spent from exhaustion before you are even 50? Nah, easy peesy say the old studs making the laws. When was the last time any one of them ever even HAD responsibility of a child. My guess is they left it all to their wives and the various "help" they had and went on their merry dick swinging ways. Fathers who helped raise their children would know better than this.

You might even have to do all this as a grandparent if your daughter gave birth at 11 and nobody would ever crawl out from under that pressure, it would be the rest of your life.

Sorry, I can no longer take much more of this.

I mean, I suppose it makes a certain 'sense' in terms of 'logical consistency' to argue that the means of conception is immaterial, but that is wildly out of line with any sense of justice or fairness for the victim.

Like you say, an 11 year old could get pregnant from a rape, and forcing her to both bear and then bring up ... the child of her rapist? That is just WAAAY the f*** outta line. Sorry Embryo/Fetus ... you lose in this equation.

You should've never existed the first place.

Your existence is not God's Will, and you know what, if it IS? Then God is a freaking asshole, who's Will should be subverted at every opportunity.

What if that pregnant 11 year old is your oldest child? What if you have 2 more who are younger and now you have a grandchild to support as well knowing that you likely will have to do that forever?

I know people who do this but they usually are doing it because the child is wanted. There is a CHOICE that is being taken away from many others, not just the person that wants an abortion. There is nothing here that belongs in a compassionate society, especially considering abortions don't have to happen if you take your mind out of your "own personal interpretation" of what Jesus wants and teach your kids about birth control and don't berate them for it. Provide it for free how much could that cost and at what savings to the people of this country. It would change everything but nope, nothing changes without using someone else as a victim here. I am just so damned sick and tired of this. Been in this spot, RvW was a while in the future. There is nothing loving and cuddly about being in that spot and we should not ever make women make those kinds of choices again.

That's not traumatic


Hell, pregnancy itself can be traumatic, particularly to an 11-year old whose body is still developing and can't really support a pregnancy.

Because operating on them would be "a second violent act".

The govt shouldn't ever have this kind of control over a woman's reproductive system.

that are decrying the "second violent act" of abortion also supporters of the Death Penalty, which would be a second violent act following a murder?

Oh snap!

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The triviality of the fetus, diminished to a fine, is all that exists. All other claims are just fabricated bullshit.

In fact, there is once section that talks about miscarriage drugs being given if there is question of paternity.


The churches use this as a tool to fleece congregants, keep them galvanized and perform free labor at church.

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That argument goes back at least a couple decades.

by broadcasting sports on them

Hard to square this with:

Kidnapping babies and children at the border, resulting in their torture, disappearance, and in some cases, death.
Insane obsession with putting guns in as many hands as possible.
Countless attacks on Social Security, Medicare, Affordable Care Act, health, safety and environmental regulations.
Lying us into huge endless wars.

Hard to figure, isn't it, but that's where the GOP is.

"* - Does not apply to immigrants, Muslims, poor, people who are post-fetal, women, people on the left, non-white people, etc. Consult a doctor if life has dignity for more than nine months and not a corporation, not applicable in all states."

conceived." Did those 6 children who died in U.S. custody have that opportunity? So much for caring for human life in Trumpworld!

This has been standard operating procedure since the Nixon administration.

I've often wondered. Have a relative - Stanford educated, MBA, CEO of a midsize bank group - 1000% Repug. I just have to believe it's Faux News.

Because this seems clear to me. Voting for a republican is like voting to take human rights back 1,000 years or more.

Oh, please: death penalty? Kids in cages? Wars of choice? No healthcare as a basic human right? Even if women are forced to carry to term, as healthcare is considered a luxury in this country, who's going to pay the birth costs?