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pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
Fri May 24, 2019, 04:40 PM May 2019

Tribe and Dershowitz agree on the threat to freedom of press from the new Assange indictment.

Both are Constitutional Law professors at Harvard; and Tribe has been speaking out strongly against Trump while Dershowitz has been an apologist.

But the threat of the superseding Assange indictment is something on which they agree.


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Laurence Tribe

@tribelaw
I rarely get an opportunity to agree with @AlanDersh these days. When he and I agree — as we do here — it’s an occasion for alarm. This threat to freedom of the press is clear and pressing.



THIS IS THE DERSHOWITZ ARTICLE:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/445447-julian-assange-indictment-endangers-press-freedom

The federal indictment of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange this week for publishing stolen classified information raises serious First Amendment issues. Assange already has been indicted for improperly trying to obtain a password that would have accessed classified material. But the current indictment is different. This latest one is for the constitutionally protected act of publishing such classified material stolen by another individual.

The New York Times, the Washington Post, and other mainstream media outlets have published stolen classified information without having been indicted. Wikileaks is not mainstream, but the First Amendment draws no distinction between the nature of the medium for publishing. If Assange were to be successfully prosecuted and his conviction affirmed on appeal, that precedent would lie around like a loaded gun ready to be aimed at any newspaper or television station that published any stolen classified material. In an age when political leaders of both parties are weaponizing the criminal laws for their partisan advantage, this would be an especially dangerous precedent, allowing selective prosecution of media enemies.

All civil libertarians regardless of party should be concerned about the current indictment against Assange. I visited him in London several years ago and provided legal consultation when he was first arrested and when the Obama administration was considering indicting him. Indeed, we were concerned at the time that there might be a sealed federal indictment against him. The Obama administration apparently concluded in the end that the risks to freedom of the press were far too serious. The Trump administration apparently has reached a different conclusion on this.


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pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
2. No, it isn't. The original indictment was about hacking and Tribe didn't object to that indictment.
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:37 PM
May 2019

But this new superseding indictment is also about PUBLISHING the information, and that's why Tribe is now concerned about freedom of the press.

Voltaire2

(13,289 posts)
3. This is a chilling abuse of power.
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:32 PM
May 2019

Put your opinions about Assange aside. This is not about him, it is about freedom of the press in a democracy.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. It's about illegal hacking and giving classified information
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:22 PM
May 2019

to the enemy which is treason.

Any reporter, anywhere in this country would be held accountable for treason if they hacked into government classified information.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
4. This isn't really about either Assange or the press: it's the "Russia helped us win" gang
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:06 PM
May 2019

realizing the sleaze ball Assange (who sent them the hacked materia) could make them look like the scumbags they all really are if he yammers too much and trying therefore to figure out how to shut him up



I don't regard Assange as much of a journalist. But I doubt he can be prosecuted for the simple act of spreading around the material he spread. On the other hand, I do suspect there are real crimes he really could be prosecuted for, if the attorney general had the evidence -- but I'm getting a distinct impression he doesn't have the evidence. This leaves the question, Why go after Assange now? and the obvious answer is that it has something to do with the story about how "Russia helped Trump win"

pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
5. Well, they ARE prosecuting him for the act of spreading around the material,
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:12 PM
May 2019

in addition to the initial charge of helping with the hacking.

However, maybe Barr feels this is a win-win. If they somehow succeed, then they have undermined freedom of the press. If they fail, the Britain will choose not to extradite him for this non-crime (publishing isn't a crime) and he won't be here for any prosecutor to interview.

still_one

(92,537 posts)
7. "Is Julian Assange a journalist by conspiring and assisting a security clearance holder to acquire
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:46 PM
May 2019

classified information, and his publishing the name of human sources. Indeed, no responsible actor - journalist or otherwise - would purposefully publish the names of individuals he or she knew to be confidential human sources in war zones, exposing them to the greatest of dangers."


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