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Judi Lynn

(160,707 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:10 PM May 2019

An Uber driver fatally shot a passenger in an argument over vomit in the car, police say


Beatrice Christofaro 2h

An Uber passenger was fatally shot after an argument with the driver about a "large amount of vomit" in the back seat of his car, the police say.

James Porter, 27, was shot dead by the side of a New Mexico highway on March 17, the Albuquerque Journal reported.

The Uber vehicle's driver, Clayton Benedict, has not been charged with a crime in connection to the shooting, the Journal said.

. . .

According to the Journal, Benedict told the police that Porter and Reyes had been drinking and that Reyes vomited on the back seat. The incident is said to have sparked an argument over a clean-up fee, which the affidavit said Porter refused to pay.

Benedict said he pulled over at an interstate exit and asked his passengers to leave the car, the Journal said. He said Porter reacted angrily, slamming the door and throwing his sunglasses at the driver, who had also exited the vehicle.

More:
https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-kills-passenger-over-vomit-in-car-police-say-2019-5
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An Uber driver fatally shot a passenger in an argument over vomit in the car, police say (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2019 OP
I see wide-spread gun-ownership has made us all a lot more polite... Aristus May 2019 #1
+10000. I laugh every time I hear some gun-humper say that. Hoyt May 2019 #2
Sounds like the passenger was an asshole tbh Calculating May 2019 #3
I suppose "sounds like he was an asshole" is a wonderful excuse LanternWaste May 2019 #4
"trivialize the death of others"?? Alea May 2019 #6
So, puking in an uber and being a drunken jerk is a capital offense now? obamanut2012 May 2019 #5
Let's recap. . . . Jake Stern May 2019 #7
Reminds me a lot of the theater shooting exboyfil May 2019 #8
uber man better have video otherwise its only his version which could msongs May 2019 #9
He might not need any video at all. Captain Stern May 2019 #12
That's why I don't fuck with uber/lyft... Blue_Tires May 2019 #10
Zero stars for both TeamPooka May 2019 #11

Calculating

(2,957 posts)
3. Sounds like the passenger was an asshole tbh
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:20 PM
May 2019

Not that he deserved to die, but I'm not gonna cry over the loss of him either.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. I suppose "sounds like he was an asshole" is a wonderful excuse
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:27 PM
May 2019

I suppose "sounds like he was an asshole" is a wonderful excuse to both minimize and trivialize the death of others, allowing us to justify our basest and most crass emotions as somehow rational.

Alea

(706 posts)
6. "trivialize the death of others"??
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:33 PM
May 2019

Porter had no problem trivializing the potential death of the uber driver when he tried to commandeer the car and threaten to run over him (kill him) with it.

It's rarely the small little argument that happens that gets someone killed, like the headline in the OP. It's what happens right before the shots are fired that matters. Being a drunk asshole and puking in the car didn't get Porter killed. Trying to steal the car and threatening to kill the driver is what got him killed.

I don't know if it was a good shoot or not. I wasn't there. None of us were. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but it wasn't as simple as the OP headline makes it seem.

obamanut2012

(26,196 posts)
5. So, puking in an uber and being a drunken jerk is a capital offense now?
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:48 PM
May 2019

Wow.

JFC

And yes, that is exactly what you implied.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
7. Let's recap. . . .
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:54 PM
May 2019

Drunken jerk made a threat to commit a violent felony against the driver - "Well if you’re not going to shoot me, I (am) going to run you over with your own car".

Following that threat, Drunken Jerk actually tried to access the vehicle which escalated the incident from a threat to an attempt which brings self defense into play.

Do you really think that if the police believed it wasn't justified they would have released him without charge?

Drunken Jerk is pushing up daisies due to his own actions.

exboyfil

(17,867 posts)
8. Reminds me a lot of the theater shooting
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:55 PM
May 2019

in Florida. That case still hasn't been resolved. He has been out on bail for the last five years.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/Trial-postponed-in-Pasco-theater-shooting-due-to-stand-your-ground-uncertainty_171176116

Don't expect the justice system to have your back if you escalate an argument. Our country is insane.

msongs

(67,509 posts)
9. uber man better have video otherwise its only his version which could
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:24 PM
May 2019

be a made up story to cover murder

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
12. He might not need any video at all.
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:27 PM
May 2019

The article doesn't tell us all that much. But, it basically says uber man shot the guy because the dead guy went to the car's open driver's door and said "Well if you're not going to shoot me, I (am) going to run you over with your own car." To me, if that's all that happened, that doesn't get uber guy out of some sort of charges.

However, if the guy that got shot was actually in the car, and taking action to back up his threat, I think uber guy is in the clear. If there isn't any evidence to disprove his story, he's not the one that needs video (even though his story could be made up). He doesn't have to prove his story...the Prosecutor has to disprove it.

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