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dhol82

(9,353 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:08 PM Jan 2020

Just got a rude wake up from Amazon Prime

January first - must be new rules time.
Was looking for something to watch and plugged into my Prime account. All of a sudden I had to pay for stuff that I was watching for free yesterday.
I am not amused. This will make me rethink how much I really want to keep paying for the special perks.

However, I can now see Brother Cadfael for free. Guess a thirty year old series is cheap enough for them to throw the masses.
Happy but not amused.

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Just got a rude wake up from Amazon Prime (Original Post) dhol82 Jan 2020 OP
I'm hooked on Hill Street Blues mahina Jan 2020 #1
I was watching CSI and Numbers dhol82 Jan 2020 #2
I'll have to check if I've been screwed too. I use shipping a good bit, watch the shows, but Hoyt Jan 2020 #3
One thing Amazon gives for free: Amazon Web Services generated SPAM in your inbox. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #57
No kidding. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #76
Got hooked on The Handmaid's Tale after watching seasons 1 and 2 milestogo Jan 2020 #4
That's on Hulu. dhol82 Jan 2020 #6
I bought and watched it on Amazon Prime. milestogo Jan 2020 #38
Season 3 is newer so it naturally costs more Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #61
Thank you for reminding me :) mwooldri Jan 2020 #5
You can watch Brother Cadfael on YouTube, for free. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #7
Good to know. :) dhol82 Jan 2020 #8
I was watching Perry Mason episodes Skittles Jan 2020 #9
I love Perry Mason CatWoman Jan 2020 #10
OMG Skittles Jan 2020 #12
they only drank alcohol and coffee CatWoman Jan 2020 #14
7) The Perry Mason Moment: "I confess. Yes, I did it!" Hortensis Jan 2020 #19
"I did it. And I'm glad he's dead." Bob Loblaw Jan 2020 #23
Lol. Oh yes, classic. Hortensis Jan 2020 #35
And the prosecutor's name was Hamilton Burger! 2naSalit Jan 2020 #49
I did notice that in the credits Skittles Jan 2020 #51
I always wondered about that. 2naSalit Jan 2020 #54
they show Perry Mason episodes on ME-TV IcyPeas Jan 2020 #21
it airs twice daily here CatWoman Jan 2020 #27
CBS has pulled it from Amazon FreeState Jan 2020 #31
f*** Skittles Jan 2020 #52
They also pulled Sabrina the Teenage Witch Maeve Jan 2020 #66
we watch that too... stillcool Jan 2020 #82
hope its just taking advantage of dec 31st. and free tomorrow. pansypoo53219 Jan 2020 #11
No, this is January 1 dhol82 Jan 2020 #22
Wow! Have been watching The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Hope this is not gone question everything Jan 2020 #13
It was there an hour ago. Kaleva Jan 2020 #17
It's an Amazon Original series, it's not going anywhere Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #62
Thank you. question everything Jan 2020 #70
What's free to watch on Prime changes every month Recursion Jan 2020 #68
What shows do you have to pay for now that were free a few days ago? Kaleva Jan 2020 #15
Good Q. My Prime looks identical to yesterday/before JDC Jan 2020 #18
I watched Prime tonight and haven't noticed any difference. Kaleva Jan 2020 #20
Same for me obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #59
CSI, Numbers, House dhol82 Jan 2020 #24
All CBS shows - they just launched FreeState Jan 2020 #34
That makes sense. dhol82 Jan 2020 #42
CBS All Access launched a couple of years ago Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #63
I can watch seasons 1-8 of House for free on Prime. Kaleva Jan 2020 #36
I have Prime. dhol82 Jan 2020 #43
House ran for 8 seasons Kaleva Jan 2020 #48
5 seasons of House are still free in my account. Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #39
And what's interesting is that most of these shows were free on Hulu last year. dhol82 Jan 2020 #44
I don't have Hulu - Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #47
Frasier RobinA Jan 2020 #55
Those shows are owned by CBS All Access. Kaleva Jan 2020 #56
Right. RobinA Jan 2020 #75
Most everything that I wanted to watch on Prime I had to pay for...I would never get prime for just UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #16
It's just a pain when one has been binge watching that suddenly it's only pay per view. dhol82 Jan 2020 #25
That's not a pain that is complete bullshit. Did you email them to complain? I know it might not UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #46
That's not Amazon's (or Apple or Googles) fault FreeState Jan 2020 #26
It would have been nice if they had advised their subscribers of the upcoming changes. dhol82 Jan 2020 #29
Absolutely - I hate Amazons "customer service" FreeState Jan 2020 #32
I get an email from Amazon That does exactly that! Lars39 Jan 2020 #37
And a couple of hundred sites post that info monthly too Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #64
Well, that's not entirely true. Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #40
Right - however many of the titles above FreeState Jan 2020 #41
Most of the titles I've seen mentioned are available - but on an additional fee basis. Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #45
It's an interesting shift FreeState Jan 2020 #50
Sounds about right. Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #53
Yeah, But RobinA Jan 2020 #79
You're not giving up cable, Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #84
Drop them Kurt V. Jan 2020 #28
Gee, what other great suggestions do you have? dhol82 Jan 2020 #30
read a book :) Kurt V. Jan 2020 #58
HAH! Nature Man Jan 2020 #60
Talking to someone who can see you is too scary! Judi Lynn Jan 2020 #67
Gee more awesome suggestions. dhol82 Jan 2020 #71
No one said anything about you personally Nature Man Jan 2020 #74
things move in and out of Prime from time to time. yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #33
Yeah, I was enjoying the programming. dhol82 Jan 2020 #72
The Advantage RobinA Jan 2020 #80
Streaming services Bettie Jan 2020 #65
Good grief, this is perfectly normal for any streaming service obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #69
Interesting. dhol82 Jan 2020 #73
I've Only Been RobinA Jan 2020 #81
This happens all the time with all subscription services matt819 Jan 2020 #77
They switch out content like other streamers do. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #78
I get more from Amazon Prime PatSeg Jan 2020 #83

mahina

(17,717 posts)
1. I'm hooked on Hill Street Blues
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jan 2020

Some are free or were.

Happy family memories when we were all together.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
2. I was watching CSI and Numbers
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:14 PM
Jan 2020

With the occasional foray into House.
Now all of them require payment.
Pissed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I'll have to check if I've been screwed too. I use shipping a good bit, watch the shows, but
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jan 2020

really get value from the “free” music. Haven’t had to buy a CD or other digital music in years, even obscure stuff. Listen to a lot of stuff once, and move on. If they’ve changed that, . . . . . .

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
76. No kidding.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jan 2020

I am considering not sending Amazon a dime in the next year and see how that goes. We have lots of local stores in our area including a locally owned grocery chain that I like. Until they breakup Amazon, I think they are killing main street.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
4. Got hooked on The Handmaid's Tale after watching seasons 1 and 2
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jan 2020

But Season 3 costs way more and I'm not buying it.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
6. That's on Hulu.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jan 2020

I am talking about Amazon Prime.
I have a subscription to Hulu. Can’t imagine that they charge for their own programming.
Will check.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
5. Thank you for reminding me :)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

I have two trials to Amazon Prime that need cancelling. One UK and one US. My wife has Prime, we don't need three Prime subscriptions.

Yup, Amazon has rights via Prime only for so long - things available on one streaming service one minute then yanked to another the next.

Skittles

(153,226 posts)
9. I was watching Perry Mason episodes
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jan 2020

now I can still see the episodes but they're not available for me - does not mention fees.....wtf

Skittles

(153,226 posts)
12. OMG
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jan 2020

1) EVERYONE SMOKED, EVERYWHERE!!
2) Everyone was so much THINNER!
3) Perry could send a child diving in a pond to get a container of cyanide capsules and no one thinks twice about it!
4) The cars look like they could easily drive through buildings!
5) I was at almost 30 episodes and have yet to see a gal in pants!
6) DELLA keeps Perry afloat!
7) Paul Drake is a HOOT!

feel free to add your own!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. 7) The Perry Mason Moment: "I confess. Yes, I did it!"
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:53 PM
Jan 2020

Hard to believe in these more cynical times, but back then criminals really did frequently leap up while observing someone else's trial and spontaneously confess.



P.S., I LOVE #3. That one's a real winner.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
23. "I did it. And I'm glad he's dead."
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:05 PM
Jan 2020

Those were my favorites. And how did the prosecutor Hamilton Burger, keep getting elected without ever getting a conviction?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Lol. Oh yes, classic.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jan 2020

As for Burger, maybe it all evened out in Ozzie-and-Harrietland since he was apparently always prosecuting the wrong person?

Okay, I'm hooked. I'm going to have to find some reruns. My husband can enjoy the old cars too.

2naSalit

(86,867 posts)
54. I always wondered about that.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jan 2020

I laughed really hard when I figured that out and I could never look at that show the same way after that. Made me wonder if there was some kind of underlying satire that I was missing. So it seemed more like a Dick Tracey comic sort of thing forever after.

IcyPeas

(21,916 posts)
21. they show Perry Mason episodes on ME-TV
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jan 2020

like at 1:00 in the morning or thereabouts. (I guess it depends if your tv channels carry ME-TV)

Maeve

(42,297 posts)
66. They also pulled Sabrina the Teenage Witch
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 09:34 AM
Jan 2020

The day I planned to binge the final season

On the bright side, that was the worst season

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
82. we watch that too...
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jan 2020

or we used to. My husband thinks it has something to do with CBS, which owns the rights I guess...and there is a new Perry Mason series/movie(?) in the works, which might have something to do with it. Pure speculation, of course.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
68. What's free to watch on Prime changes every month
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jan 2020

And presumably Jan 1 is a bigger "bump" than most months are.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
24. CSI, Numbers, House
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jan 2020

Plus a bunch of movies that had been free.
Note, this is only what I was following.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
34. All CBS shows - they just launched
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jan 2020

Their own streaming service and are consolidating their shows to that platform. (NBC is doing the same).

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
63. CBS All Access launched a couple of years ago
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 09:15 AM
Jan 2020

But we're now seeing existing contracts end for a lot of series they licensed out previously, which is why they're shifting.

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
36. I can watch seasons 1-8 of House for free on Prime.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jan 2020

I just checked.

It's free in so far as one pays for Prime. If you don't subscribe to Prime, then you have to pay for it.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
43. I have Prime.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020

Don’t think I have gone past season 8.
Was just advised that I needed to pay for watching.

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
48. House ran for 8 seasons
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jan 2020

I pay for Amazon Prime and when I looked at the channel, I see that i can watch all 8 seasons without paying extra. I don't know about the other 2 series you mentioned but another poster did say you have to pay to watch those.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
39. 5 seasons of House are still free in my account.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:23 PM
Jan 2020

CSI and Numb3rs have switch to paid.

I don't have a subscription for the video - but I had noticed recently that I had to be careful because they were intermingling more paid programs in the display.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
44. And what's interesting is that most of these shows were free on Hulu last year.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jan 2020

This whole streaming thing thing is getting out of hand.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
47. I don't have Hulu -
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jan 2020

but we have Netflix. The offerings have always been different between Netflix and Amazon. Both are still a lot cheaper than cable (our only other alternative - since over-the-air TV does not exist where we live, post- analog to digital conversion)

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
55. Frasier
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jan 2020

Came home from New Years Eve and flipped it on. Sorry Sucker! Pay up. Oh wait, you already pay for Prime. Pay again!

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
56. Those shows are owned by CBS All Access.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

To watch them, you pay CBS All Access (Viacom). Just like if I wanted to watch HBO on Amazon Prime. I would have to subscribe to HBO.

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
75. Right.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jan 2020

Pay more money. Now MORE money. Frasier used to come with Prime and Netflix. Now suddenly it doesn't. I'll await my rebate for all the removed shows. Luckily, I own Frasier CDs, so I won't be handing out more money to other services just to get that. I may even ditch Netflix. They aren't good for movies and I've watched everything they have that interests me. Maybe pick up Britbox, there's some stuff on there I want to see. Musical streaming services.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
16. Most everything that I wanted to watch on Prime I had to pay for...I would never get prime for just
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020

the movies/tv.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
25. It's just a pain when one has been binge watching that suddenly it's only pay per view.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jan 2020

Did not ever get a notification about this.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
46. That's not a pain that is complete bullshit. Did you email them to complain? I know it might not
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:37 PM
Jan 2020

change anything but they should be told.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
26. That's not Amazon's (or Apple or Googles) fault
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jan 2020

The right holders for the content changed the terms. Amazon (or any other supplier of content that is licensed) has no option but to play by the rules which are set by the studios. Lots of shows getting yanked at the beginning of the year is typical. NBC is pulling a shows of multiple platforms as they get ready to launch their streaming service as well (Friends etc).

Lars39

(26,117 posts)
37. I get an email from Amazon That does exactly that!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:22 PM
Jan 2020

What books and movies are leaving Prime, and what’s going to be newly available, too.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
64. And a couple of hundred sites post that info monthly too
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 09:20 AM
Jan 2020

since hulu,netflix, and others go through the same process.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
40. Well, that's not entirely true.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jan 2020

Amazon doesn't acquire its content for free, so they anything that is available on a pay-per-view could be included in the Amazon subscription as long as Amazon pays the (likely higher) fees. In other words, as long as the content is available for licensing, Amazon determines what licensed to include in the content they provided to end users without additional charge.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
41. Right - however many of the titles above
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:31 PM
Jan 2020

Are no longer available to be licensed as the studios are pulling them to be available only on their wn streaming platforms.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
45. Most of the titles I've seen mentioned are available - but on an additional fee basis.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:36 PM
Jan 2020

Perry Mason being the only exception, I think.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
50. It's an interesting shift
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jan 2020

There are several moving pieces in the streaming industry. The studios are finding their footing and creating tiers of shows apparently. I.e:

1) Exclusive (only available with us).
2) Licensed Exclusive (available to studio and one streaming service).
3) Available to all with a license.
4) pay per view (exclusive and licensed variables)
5) purchase titles
6) embedded channels

*edit to add this is my observations over the past couple years, I more than likely am missing some things. I’m not sure how they figure out which titles they make available but I’m sure it’s on monitory value of viewership.

And then we have NBC which is going to launch their platform as an ad supported offering - no fees.

PlayStation Vue - arguably the best streaming service for live TV is going under January 31st too. Not thrilled with the options that are left (not a fan of YouTube or ATT).

Lots of areas and directions they are trying.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
53. Sounds about right.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jan 2020

Cable has pretty much priced itself out of the market - especially with competition from market disrupters. Many of the new options seem to be internet versions of prior cable channels - struggling to find new ways to compete.

We never did buy into cable. Until the mandatory analog to digital conversion, we never paid for TV at all. And I wasn't about to pay $25-$100/ month for the shows I'd been getting for free. So when we could no longer get free TV, we switched to Netflix at ~$7/month. (We can't get digital signals - even though we had relatively decent analog signals.) Others got fed up with cable fees - but for them it was a down shift, rather than an upshift. But the end result was that cable was able to command far less of the market, and couldn't attrach new users to replace them.

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
79. Yeah, But
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jan 2020

when I priced cutting the cord, it wasn't that much cheaper to get basic national networks, PBS, and then the content we do watch, and we're not even a TV-heavy family. Our sports are tennis and figure skating. Add in WiFi, and giving up cable didn't really pay.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
84. You're not giving up cable,
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jan 2020

if you're keeping the basic national networks, PBS, and content you watch.

Cutting the cord means no cable bill, not no cable bill beyond the basics (which is part of the reason cable companies are pricing themselves out of the market and are looking for ways to reinvent themselves - there are NO reasonable cable bills, when compared to other sources for videos/TV shows.)

Our cable bill is (and always has been) $0.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
60. HAH!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 09:09 AM
Jan 2020

Good one.

I'd also suggest:

* Take a walk

* Grow a houseplant

* Have a face-to-face conversation

* Do something, anything to help others

There's probably a brazillion things one could conjure up to pass the time instead of staring slack-jawed at a screen.



dhol82

(9,353 posts)
71. Gee more awesome suggestions.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jan 2020

I do all of the above. Still occasionally like to watch some old shows.
Guess in your world that makes me a dumb blonde?

Nature Man

(869 posts)
74. No one said anything about you personally
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jan 2020

do anything you damn well please, it's a free country, sorta.

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
33. things move in and out of Prime from time to time.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020

Back when I was watching The Good Wife, I'd have to wait 6 months until the new season moved to Prime. There were several others as well.

I really enjoy Prime and all the other advantages.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
72. Yeah, I was enjoying the programming.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jan 2020

Just frustrating that I didn’t know it was being changed so I could have done some proactive binge watching.
I do like prime for the shipping.

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
80. The Advantage
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jan 2020

to Prime is that you can get most movies, even if you have to pay for them. Post video store there just isn't a good source of lots of movies when you want them. This is why I will never ditch Prime. Netflix, on the other hand, is crap for movies and now that I'm caught up with the British Baking Show may be expendable. I generally don't like their original content.

Bettie

(16,133 posts)
65. Streaming services
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jan 2020

have shows come and go all the time, especially now when so many new services are coming online.

Not unusual for a show to move from one platform to another.

obamanut2012

(26,162 posts)
69. Good grief, this is perfectly normal for any streaming service
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jan 2020

Google, "What is leaving NAME OF STREAMING SERVICE in MONTH," AS WELL AS "What is coming to STREAMING SERVICE in MONTH." Licensing agreements, contracts, etc. changes all the time.

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
81. I've Only Been
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jan 2020

streaming for about a year and wasn't aware of this. Streaming, like most new technologies, has some advantages but isn't quite what one hopes it would be.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
77. This happens all the time with all subscription services
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jan 2020

Audiobooks, tv shows, etc. Contracts with publishers change, rights change, etc. Shows disappear, other shows appear. It sucks, but it's not Amazon or Amazon Prime being underhanded. On Audible, for example, books available in the US are not available in the UK, and vice versa. It's annoying. Shows I've watched disappear and reappear elsewhere - I've noticed this with foreign shows, some of which I become addicted to.

Don't get me wrong. Like almost everyone, I have a love-hate relationship with Amazon. On the merchant side, it's a major rip off for small businesses, for a whole host of reasons, and I cancelled my merchant account because of it. But the other stuff? It happens. And, yes, it does seem supremely weird to be paying to watch 30-year-old shows.

PatSeg

(47,672 posts)
83. I get more from Amazon Prime
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jan 2020

than I get from other services. On top of the free two day shipping, I get an incredible selection of movies and TV shows, many made for Amazon. I particularly like British television and Amazon has the best selection.

With all the services, some movies and TV shows leave as new ones come in. Often the contracts for them has expired.

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