No back up plan in place, no plans on how to deal with their retribution, not informing Congress first, hell he didn't even inform Senae Republicans.

I know who did this to you and if your interested I can tell you where he lives and golfs!! LOL

Taken the flight down when in flight. Different engagement.

Commanders, all types, get people killed. I’m sure hes been already replaced.

Trump committed a war crime. He gave the order for the assassination of a Leader. Who is going to speak up when they return the favor?

He and the generals that allowed him to are bat shit crazy, notice the only one saying hooray is Bibi. Do we have any allies left? Not many.

commit war crimes when they authorized the assassinations of Admiral Yamamoto and Osama Ben Ladin?

Any american leader cause we have killed MANY times more innocents than this guy has.

an act of war against another country?

I guess you didn't know that.

A war declared by Congress, as prescribed by the Constitution.

authorized by the President of the United States.

in a procession for Suleimani's body there in north Iran, Ahvaz also today, Tehran tomorrow, his home town in southern Iran on Tuesday.

There's quite a dissonance between being glad we assassinated a national leader (!) and wishing 2020 were already over.

Since you find yourself glad Trump ordered his assassination, what is your opinion of all the American political and military leaders of the past 20 years who did not have him assassinated? A bunch of cowardly, dumb, immoral fucks unfit for their jobs? How about the leaders in all the other nations Suleimani did the same to who made the exact same decision? Also a bunch of cowardly, dumb, immoral fucks unfit for their jobs?

Or were they smart and responsible? There's more to know, and I believe if you learn more about why they make the decisions they do you'll stop being glad, but paradoxically, because this is a terrible turn, it'll help the fear also.

In any case, since we can't skip 2020, hope whether yours is good or bad in your own little part of this planet turns out to be mainly the result of your own decisions. The way it normally is.

most other conservatives to have compartmented their support for what he's doing right out of their minds. "Others supported him, not me." Of course, a few will go on to admit they can't help being glad he persecuted all the brown-skinned people he could get away with. And, "Anyway, it was the Democrats' fault." What're thoughts of Bernie doing horning in here? Oh, of course.

Thanks.

where do you stop?

Not enough drones to take out all the people Trump finds to be a threat to 'national security' (read - 'Trump's ego'.)

What next?
Accidental fall off a high balcony for Biden? A car bomb for Pelosi?

And honestly - all those people saying Qasem Soleimani was a seriously bad guy, and Trump was right to take him out, how many of you had actually heard his name before? Or are you just echoing Trump's propaganda machine?

And another question - any retaliation, will it be targeted at specific people say Trump himself, or some high ranking US General? Or will it be indiscriminate? Kill Americans, any Americans?

He was accused, not just by Trump but also the Obama administration, of being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of our servicemen. He was at war with the US.

He was a saint!!!

This action could start WWIII

This isn’t hyperbole

A lot of it involves American army boots on the ground.

No official wars anywhere, but plenty of potential flashpoints that can set one off. All it takes is one insane leader to fire it all up.

. . . . and Americans have been worrying about Kim 'Little Rocket Man' and Putin . . . the real insanity is much closer at home.

It appears that the vast majority of Americans are going about their lives like this never happened and there isn't anything to worry about.

They should remember to try to pay more attention to politics first, instead of refusing to get off their TV shows, video games, and professional sports -- and go vote for their own interests.

your beautiful mind with petty things like international law.

Rather silly to have laws if there is no one willing to enforce them.

person?

Do you think other nations should also behave this way?

nm

America has a God given right to do so.
(God is white, speaks American, and will Defend his Chosen Ones. Even if they are the aggressors. So the theory goes.)

If any other country does it though, it's pure Terrorism.

Every nation decides on their own.

but the world is less safe today than it was last week -- in addition we have lost any remaining support we had in Iraq. Iraqi parliament will probably vote to void our SFA in the next week due to this.

In it, Rump was asked specifically about what he thought about Soleimani. Rump knew zero about him, asked for some hints. The interviewer said he heads the Quds forces. Rump said 'It's terrible how the Kurds are treated', and the guy corrects him and says 'The Iranian Quds forces.' Then Rump doesn't answer the question about Soleimani, just repeats 'oh, I thought you said the Kurds'. So he made sure to not admit he knew zero about Soleimani, but also made sure he didn't show he learned anything about Soleimani. Who happened to be a very bad Iranian guy that also was one of the most effective opponents of ISIL and Al Qaeda.

We see how 'terrible' he feels about how the Kurds are treated. He pulled our troops away from the areas they were in, to let them get slaughtered. He pulled our troops out because he is 'sick of endless wars in the middle east'. One of his flunkies just suggested that the Kurds will be on our side in a fight with Iran, to boot -- the Kurds Rump just got done abandoning to slaughter.

He's sick of endless wars in the middle east, so he destabilized Iraq and threatens war with Iran.

He's the embodiement of pee pee the frog fans' 'feels good' mantra. What makes you believe he ever bothered to learn anything about Soleimani after he became Prez, since he made sure to learn nothing when he was asking for our votes? He does everything because it feels good for him to do it, and what feels good to him is destroying things, attacking, killing, breaking down, punishing, unleashing his 'powerful' wrath. Working, learning, knowing anything doesn't feel good to him, so he doesn't bother doing those things.

A stopped clock with 2 broken off hands is right zero times a day. Rump's mind is like a cuckoo clock in hell.

But I'm sure he knows the price of a hamberder, and still rates any females he sees on a scale out of ten.

everything within the sphere of 'awareness' is, everything from his disgusting skin on inward to what it covers, and toss in his mind and soul to boot.

His awareness about what's outside of his 'lovely' form consists of looking at 'things' and figuring out if he can scam it, screw it, eat it, attack it, kill it.

Trump is a moron fixated by fabric swatches.

Trump, the billion-dollar loser — I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen

Charles Leerhson
Yahoo.com, May 9, 2019

EXCERPT...

I tend to see my time with him — the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry — as his “King Midas” period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, “The Art of the Deal,” which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.

A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.

Source:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html

He was CEO ing for all he was worth.

I guess I could add a 6th category to my assessment.

Scam it, screw it, eat it, attack it, kill it, or re-upholster it. But maybe he looked at the fabrics and couldn't figure out which of the first five things to do with them. Maybe he played 'screw, marry, kill' with the different swatches, in his head. Maybe he tried screwing AND eating the fabrics. Or tried to shoot them or sell them a shoddily constructed condo unit.

"Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand."

Maybe that was one of the loans guaranteed by the Russians so the bank had no risk.

That is sort of like calling My Cousin Vinny a law school professor.

'The two Utes?'

because they are willing to ignore the worldwide consequences. They just don't care, with their momentary self-gratification, self-aggrandizing, and feeling of power they get from hanging with a narcissistic bully. And if by chance, they are forced to admit the high probability of far-reaching horrific consequences and/or that the manner of this killing was wrong--that it violated international norms and treaties and our own national identity, they self-soothe with attacks on those critical of the action--accusing them of defending a horrific murderous enemy.

Please see through and call out their tactics. There is a BIG PICTURE here. One that defines our future.

was to make the world a better and safer place, Trump thinks he has averted war and the future deaths of American soldiers and civilians.

Chances are, he has actually set things up for more deaths. Iran has many more Generals prepared to take over the work of this particular martyr.

Now, I wonder what logic he will use to talk his way out of being wrong in the first place?

Can't see Trump say 'I am sorry, should not have done that, I got it wrong'. Can you?

He and Pence know where to turn in their resignations.

of the Shah, no American has the right to attack that general.

The Orange Anus promised to end endless wars, and bring the troops home. But now that he's afraid to end up in jail (where he belongs since a very long time...), he fell in love with Amarggeddon & the Raptures Club??

... we could kill anyone in the world. We could kill the leaders of Russia, NK, Iran, etc... we can violate all international laws and norms... with a drone or a nuclear bomb... from the top leader to an unknown soldier... What do we want to sacrifice? What do we want in return? What are the consequences? We're going to find out about consequences.

no one believes that it is a good idea to smash a hornets nest in broad daylight. Trump doesn't understand what he has opened up.

First of all I take it the poster doesn't have kids in the ME. We have between 5,500 and 6,500 spread across Iraq and Syria and SA.
Word has it that we are about gin up to 20,000 troops in the ME. I understand that we have vast air power, but I also understand that there are 160,000 Shia militiamen spread across the ME, and I'm not considering Iran's cyber attacks. I read today where Iran hacked into a government library administration web site and posted a picture of Khomaini with the Iranian flag with the words, revenge is coming. Saying that killing Suleimani was good for our nation's security is not well thought out.

By the way, I get it that Suleimani killed American soldiers but he also stopped ISIS from Moving into Bagdad after they took Mosul.

Trump has opened up a deadly hornets nest.

Trumpy refuses to be informed, so we are not flummoxed by the possibility that his ignorance gives him innocence. He squanders the best intelligence services in the world and favors his own self-gratification and his perception on how he'll get re-elected.

The Monster has become unchained. He can wreak havoc on the rest of humanity with impunity. Since he has no conscience, he will kill anyone he wants for any reason he deems justifiable, no matter how justified it really is.

Bush 43, judging by the history of his decisions, was thoroughly entranced by the depth of his power over life and death. Trump isn't "entranced". He feels ENTITLED to kill with impunity. This, the US has done to themselves, and the world will suffer for it.

Trump has opened the gates of Hell.

mourns him. No one here wishes he is still alive. It's the way that it happened that has everyone on edge, and the consequences it may bring.

If it was wrong to kill him, and I think it was seriously wrong, then he should still be alive.

let's see you come back in a few months and say the same thing after you see the results of some revenge bombings with dead bodies everywhere because of a Trump wag the dog war.

because there are a lot of bad players that wish us harm. Should we compile a list and start assassinating them?

Sounds like a bad guy, but admitting that doesn’t mean anyone buys the garbage Trump and Pompeo are saying about him, that this saved thousands of American lives.

He said he will retaliate on 52 sites if Iran does anything. Do you think this is a good result?

I think Iran will retaliate and I think shithead will be forced keep his promise (because he is a shithead).

Looking more than one move ahead is not shitheads thing.

I could end that with a word that starts with S, but I won’t!

NO ONE THINKS THIS DUDE WAS OK.

My god, why is this so hard for people to comprehend???

Someone killing someone they didn’t care for started WWI !!!

If we aren't capable of that anymore then that speaks volumes about the damage Trump has done to US Intelligence and Defense. We've had so many good people quit because they refuse to take orders from Trump.

Whoever comes next is going to have a ridiculous amount of work to do to rebuild DOD and Intelligence.

And Trump is desperate for a diversion.

with good reason that not killing him was better than killing him because the blowback from taking him out would be more damaging than whatever fuckery he was up to (and he can and will be replaced). Nobody is sorry he's dead (except for millions of angry Iranians), but this was a colossally dumb move that will result in even greater and more dangerous destabilization of the region.

human being.

But there is NO credit to be given to Dotard for doing it this way, at this time, and in Iraq.

The mere fact that Iraq was not already and effectively protecting the US Embassy in Baghdad should tell you that our ongoing presence there has been on very shaky footing for some time. They simply do not want us there. This idiotic action has now completely removed the veil from the ongoing farce there because now Iraq has good justification for forcing us out. Its Parliament is actually working on that now.

I was against BOTH wars in Iraq, both of which destabilized the ME enormously and have led to today's ongoing problems there. But having to leave Iraq in such ignominy reminds everyone of our complete debacle in Vietnam. We never - ever - seem to learn. How many wasted lives - both on their side and ours? It is literally breathtaking! And how many wasted dollars that could better have been spent at home to build a better society for us all? We'll literally never know.

But as to this action specifically: now where is the high ground for the US when one of our generally perceived US war criminals - and believe me there are several - is overtly assassinated by another State on foreign soil? We have absolutely none. Zilch.

AND I will NEVER give this Lying Criminally Deranged Thug and Colossal POS credit for anything. Because he doesn't deserve it. Period.

it seems nobody is able to give it to him. Why, oh why? And we will all pay for it!

What part of this do you fail to grasp:

Link to tweet

but not just that, as another poster here pointed out, your post shows that nothing was learned from Vietnam about escalating conflicts. You'll just have to do a calculation in your head when Iran retaliates whether the price we pay will be greater than whatever more harm Soleimani would have cost.

Also about the "tard" label, do people here know that it comes from the pejorative "retard" which was used to demean? That's its origin I think.

To reiterate my point above:

Link to tweet

talking about killers: (fast forward to 2:41)

?t=162

What if every country did that? What if other countries' criteria for what constitutes a bad actor differs from ours? Where would it end? Good grief.

He was given choices over this and he took the extreme one. I'm sorry I am not interested in making an enemy out of Iran especially since it was the US that overthrew their elected prime minister (where would Iran be if that never happens?). Unfortunately people 1/2 way across the world do not have short memories.

Also I'm less interested in starting WW3 over this.

he was bad because he was their top general. Now they're going to get another top general and he's going to be just as bad, because that's his job.

It's like picking up a quarter off a ledge and everyone knows you're going to lose your cell phone doing it. Now we have no way of continuing ISIS containment, and we've snuffed out the Iraqi and Iranian oppositions. Not worth it, and not excusable for Trump not to have seen the consequences.