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(35,094 posts)It's not socialism closing down your factory
It's not socialism shutting down the coal mine
It's not socialism cutting your food stamps and welfare
usaf-vet
(6,231 posts)I don't have any specific data. But my guess would be that it's the southern conservative states where most of his support base comes from.
It has historically been that it's these same folks that choose to go into the military in larger numbers than the northern tier of states.
It was that way in the 1960s when I served. A lot of southern boys. A lot of poor southern boys. Looking for a way out. At the time it was a rarity to see proportionally number southern girls in the military.
So my guess would be that these same young folks (military age) are going to suffer a higher loss on the battlefield.
Again I have no data just many years of observation of who makes up a volunteer army.
If traveling overseas you might want to leave your MAGA hats home. A target on your head is just as bad as one on your back.
bonniebgood
(943 posts)some of these magaots would figure out what socialism is.
Farmer-Rick
(10,222 posts)It wasn't socialism that moved your good paying factory jobs to India and China.
getagrip_already
(14,920 posts)America has been fed from the teat of capitalism for so long that fear and dislike for the word are ingrained. You can make all the logical arguments you like, but people still fear and hate.
The issue isn't trumps drooling base. It's the spreading middle that people at both extremes won't acknowledge exist.
Despite what certain candidates preach, if you lead with that word you are going to get beaten over and over.
Fear is real. Hate is real. I'm glad people are fighting it. It will be a long road to acceptance. But 2020 isn't when it will happen.The gop are masters of fanning the fears and exploiting the hate. It's hard to put out a fire people keep feeding.
But if you think the fight is only with magat's, you've already lost.
ck4829
(35,094 posts)https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html
In response to the encroaching oligarchy, it is simply not enough to be that "white moderate" again. As prices of goods and essential medicines continue to go up, we have a segment of this country willing to go down into whatever abyss is being created for the lower classes to "own the libs" or because they are told any reform at all is "socialism", I'm not going down with them, I'm not going to wait for them to be comfortable, I am not going to care about their feelings. None of us should be catering to the whims of that segment of the population.
paleotn
(17,990 posts)because it wont change their view by a millimeter.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,494 posts)the decreased angst in my life.
paleotn
(17,990 posts)life is too short for that shit. That may seem selfish on my part, but I can find no common ground with these people. Some would actually chuck democracy if that's what their "dear leader" tells them to do. It's bizarre.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,112 posts)going to change that.
meow2u3
(24,774 posts)When the right bashes social programs (as part of a mixed economy) as "socialism", they're trying to justify the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, even to the point of abandoning democracy in favor of neo-fascism.
The far right doesn't like to have to share with people they consider to be their inferiors.
DeSmet
(257 posts)Corporate socialism. Handouts to the largest companies. The wealthy in the form of irresponsible tax breaks. Pharma, Insurance, Financials. Telecoms can now share your personal information to whoever wants to pay for it. What did the great deal maker get in exchange for this. Nada. We need to turn the socialist argument around and put the onus on the right. No candidate is doing this. At least not near enough. The socialism argument is what will lose the next election. Campaign on giving people their privacy back!
El Mimbreno
(777 posts)They don't know the difference between socialism and communism.
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)irresponsible tax cut.