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Adam Schiff's take on the intelligence that led to killing Soleimani (Original Post) milestogo Jan 2020 OP
Dump inspiring radicals all over the world. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #1
John Bolton has a woody today. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #2
+1 2naSalit Jan 2020 #16
Once again a thought crosses my mind... 2naSalit Jan 2020 #3
Has Russia EVER been subject to terror attacks Eyeball_Kid Jan 2020 #4
Beslan School massacre crazytown Jan 2020 #5
That was Chetchen Islamist separatists, not al Qaeda or ISIS/ISIL. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #6
"terror attacks from ISIL, al-Qaeda, etc" crazytown Jan 2020 #10
Mujahideen **in Chechnya** - nothing to do with Mujahideen anywhere else. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #12
You clearly know little about the second Chechnyan war. crazytown Jan 2020 #14
And they're enemies of Iran BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #17
I think that got the word out that if you mess with Russia RVN VET71 Jan 2020 #8
Russian apartment house bombings Nasruddin Jan 2020 #7
Per the "etc." in your question - look up the 2002 Nord-Ost siege. erronis Jan 2020 #9
Yes material_highlighter Jan 2020 #13
But Kazakhstan has been independent since '92. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #18
satellite states.... material_highlighter Jan 2020 #22
Wag. The. Dog. DanieRains Jan 2020 #11
+1 2naSalit Jan 2020 #15
Why Now? It's the 2020 election, dummy! panfluteman Jan 2020 #19
"senator warren said it MIGHT be politically motivated... wag the dog.." pangaia Jan 2020 #20
Time for tRump to get real stupid and drunk on his own ego again Blue Owl Jan 2020 #21

2naSalit

(86,872 posts)
3. Once again a thought crosses my mind...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

that russia is the actual guiding force and funder of isis.




crazytown

(7,277 posts)
14. You clearly know little about the second Chechnyan war.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jan 2020

المجاهدين العرب في الشيشان?, was an international unit of the Islamist Mujahideen that fought in Chechnya and other parts of the North Caucasus.

The first war was nationalist, the second, fundamentally islamist.

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
8. I think that got the word out that if you mess with Russia
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jan 2020

they'll go all berserker on you even if it means the death of 10 times the number of Russian citizens as terrorists. Terrorists may attack Russian institutions, but can see no profit in taking hostages, only death.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
7. Russian apartment house bombings
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jan 2020

Helped bring Putin to power.
Had to go look up the story:
[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings|
As the article suggests, later on suspicions that it was a false flag operation arose.

erronis

(15,393 posts)
9. Per the "etc." in your question - look up the 2002 Nord-Ost siege.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

It was run by Chechens who are separatists from the region of Chechnya - predominately Muslim - and not liking the Russian/Soviet rule. Much like the Afghanis and many others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

No direct link to ISIS or al-Quaeda but the festering resentment against domination is similar to that the the Great World Powers now inflicts on most other countries.

 
13. Yes
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jan 2020

Given you listed two terrorist organizations that primarily draw members from the Islamic religion (Al-Qaeda and Daesh). Going to assume you were talking about, has Russia had an issue with terrorist organizations that fit within this descriptor.

Yes they have. Mainly Russia's fringe extremist terrorists issues are from militants in Chechnya.

The story goes that after 9/11, the US was ready to begin combat operations in Afghanistan but we didn't have a strategic launching pad in the area. President Bush got an ok from President Vladimir Putin to launch US forces from the Kazakhstan area. it is said Putin did this out of sympathy, in part, given his own country's issues with Islamic militant terrorism.

Side note: Putin did this out of a quid pro quo, he believed this would curry favor from America, and Putin was rather disappointed when America didn't reciprocate the favor.


https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/chechen-terrorism-russia-chechnya-separatist

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4147436?seq=1

oldsoftie

(12,638 posts)
18. But Kazakhstan has been independent since '92.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jan 2020

We even built a base there for Afghanistan. I doubt russia wouldve approved of that

 
22. satellite states....
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jan 2020


---start text---
Last Tuesday, a little noticed but major event signaled the end of an era in Central Asia. The United States closed its only Central Asian airbase in Manas, Kyrgyzstan, formally handing back control to the government of Kyrgyzstan, which has been increasingly aligning itself with Russia.

The Transit Center at Manas was especially important for U.S. and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) efforts in Afghanistan, as it was the first and last stop for soldiers entering Central Asia en route to fight in Afghanistan. Additionally, it was home to a logistics and refueling operation run by the United States Air Force for the war in Afghanistan. The base at Manas was set up in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks with Russia’s consent and has transported 5.3 million military servicemen from 26 countries in and out the Afghanistan conflict theatre. It became especially important as a transportation hub after 2005, when the United States was evicted from its other base in the region, in Uzbekistan.
---end text---

https://thediplomat.com/2014/06/the-united-states-just-closed-its-last-base-in-central-asia/




https://www.cacianalyst.org/publications/analytical-articles/item/13534-us-kazakhstan-transit-agreement-faces-challenges-from-russia.html

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/putin-and-bush-in-common-cause-russias-view-of-the-terrorist-threat-after-september-11/amp/

https://carnegieendowment.org/2001/10/24/u.s.-russia-relations-after-september-11-2001-pub-840

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/30/afghanistan-tajikistan-obama-pakistan

panfluteman

(2,073 posts)
19. Why Now? It's the 2020 election, dummy!
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jan 2020

That, and keeping John Bolton quiet about the Ukrainian "drug deal" by giving him what he has always wanted - a war with Iran!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. "senator warren said it MIGHT be politically motivated... wag the dog.."
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jan 2020

oh my, do tell...



DUH.. and that is a COMPLIMENT to senator warren...

EVERYBODY should be yelling the truth...


And ON EDIT.

How in the world does Adam Schiff keep his cool ???

Unbelievable guy...

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