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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't know what is going on in FoxNews, but what I'm hearing from MSNBC is more
boldness in demanding proof of the imminent threat to American life. Which is to be expected because there is ample evidence to support that Trump has exhausted his trust leverage.
Gives me the feeling that Trump will grow aware that he has painted himself in a corner and I dread what will come next, since the assassination was supposed to give him breathing room and, instead, has ramped the attention on him.
pwb
(11,294 posts)Sorry even if something good is finally happening there i cant watch.
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)It's awful, it's all lies, and it's repulsive.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)American corporations are targets too.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The corner offices are gettin' a scared that some of the assets might be vulnerable.
2naSalit
(86,875 posts)flying_wahini
(6,676 posts)And who would want to deny Merican business military support?
Sarcasm here.
keithbvadu2
(36,981 posts)Trump sends American soldiers to protect Saudi oil.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Trump branded properties. It wouldn't take much to close the whole area, even without property damage.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the Iranian General was on a State Visit to Iraq and was the personal guest of Cleric Sadar,holy Hanna,are we in for some ugly sh*t to come. Remember all the Militias he rallied at the start of Cheney's Iraq nightmare. Yah,the Orange Anus not only opened a Pandora's Box,he dumped it on the ground.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)flying_wahini
(6,676 posts)Sogo
(5,006 posts)...and I don't believe they are talking figuratively.
They have also said they are not at war with the American people.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Can not remember in my lifetime,a National Group propose a Bounty on a President.
We are now across the Rubicon.
Sogo
(5,006 posts)They said their response would be on military targets and that they are not at war with the American people, but with the leader(s) of America.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Embassy's are pretty wide open to the public in most European Countries. SOS Clinton tried to get extra funding to Harden many of these facilities but McConnell would not allow it. So here we go,just what could go wrong.
Baitball Blogger
(46,772 posts)material_highlighter
(40 posts)there are many SOF bases around the world that would be a greater target of opportunity then most embassies.
Would suspect more attacks like what was just carried out in Kenya. yes I understand the attack was unrelated to the killing. But it demonstrates the vulnerability many of these outpost have.
further there are teams operating outside of these bases conducting "FID" (foreign internal defense) missions. think the Niger ambush.
in these places our SOF forces lack CAS and MEDEVAC capabilities like in the war zones where there is practically an unlimited supply of assets.
plus most embassies that are in high threat levels have been hardened post the spat of attaks in the 1990's.
Mr. Trump just placed a great deal of war fighters in great danger.
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"At a time and place of their choosing, they're going to conduct a terrorist strike that kills a senior American official," Morell said. "And that could be anywhere in the world."
[snip]
According to Morell, the killing of Soleimani sets a dangerous precedent that senior officials are fair game in the "hybrid, not-yet-at-war kind of scenario that we're in with Iran."
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/qassem-soleimani-iran-general-killed-dead-americans-as-result-former-acting-cia-director-michael-morell/
EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)The American people are not going to sit around and watch our military come home in boxes and not do something. That's how fast we will be drawn in, as if we already aren't. ISIS, for instance, brutally kills civilians just because they are Americans. So, they needn't attempt to calm us while they kill our sons and daughters. They are not our friends.
we can do it
(12,208 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,498 posts)We're seeing a blitz of speculative and inaccurate stories on various media sources, mostly from hard core right-leaning sites. I don't think "Iran" itself has made such a statement.
Not finding that contention in any of the major main stream outlets I'm watching of any Iranian government official making such a proposal, although I did find this probable basis for it being spread at the Daily Mail UK site (a Murdoch rag):
(snip from front page article)
I can hardly stand to even visit that site because it's always filled with vitriol against Democrats, along with tons of entertainment industry gossip.
We have no control over MSM statements but maybe we can at least help quench any false innuendo being spread on DU....
material_highlighter
(40 posts)as you said, we should limit our willingness to spread false information. good catch.
wnylib
(21,692 posts)I think the amount was $25M.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)Captain Zero
(6,845 posts)I bet a few of them find appointments in their planner they didn't know they had. Soon. Lots of previous commitments.
EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)And they should be. This was his responsibility .
Sogo
(5,006 posts)it's that he can't point the finger at anyone else. This action is all his, and actions have consequences, baby!
He'll try, anyway, when it all blows up in his face.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)or anyone at Marafartgo to get to him, they will do it.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)Mara logo already isn't safe. Look at all the people that just walk on there.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,600 posts)Meanwhile, the Repugs and RW media will be screaming for the Dems to withdraw the articles of impeachment, since they are distracting the pResident from his main job -- golfing at Mar-A-Lago.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)Witty post.
EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)tavernier
(12,410 posts)Its a Mirror story so far. But I wouldnt be surprised. Plenty of other crazies besides Rump out there who might go for that kind of payday.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)WhiteTara
(29,729 posts)That is definitely a war crime. Who's calling the Hague? Where's the UN?
paleotn
(17,990 posts)Yes...it was THAT stupid. And unpopular.
keithbvadu2
(36,981 posts)Jeanine Pirro is full on board and whipping the oarsmen.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)"whipping the oarsmen"
keithbvadu2
(36,981 posts)EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,396 posts)or realizing it can't air reality-detached propaganda forever, or maybe someone there read the FCC license. If they follow Don over the cliff they'll be laughed off the air. So I'm thinking it's a salvage operation.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)what can be done about it? He has already been impeached. Could we approve another article of impeachment? Yes, but what good would that do? Barring a zombie apocalypse he isn't going to be removed. We really have very few options other than using this against him in the 2020 campaign. And I think it's too early to tell how effective that would be.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,772 posts)Thankfully, reporters on MSNBC are clear on the point that the media coverage was wrong.
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SleeplessinSoCal
(9,163 posts)Both accounts. Or take it offline til the dust settles. What can he do? Take over Twitter?
Lock him up.
(6,947 posts)Still nothing from the stupid jacks...
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,163 posts)Link to tweet
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C_U_L8R
(45,027 posts)It must be millions.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)lastlib
(23,344 posts)I could almost see a few repugs in the Senate voting for it......but probly not enough......
Linda Ed
(493 posts)Rather than restoring peace, we now have more enemies! Tehran put an $80m bounty on drumpfs head, threatened the White House and tore up nuclear deal
'We can attack the White House itself, we can respond to them on the American soil. We have the power, and God willing we will respond in an appropriate time,' Iranian MP Abolfazl Abutorabi
brewens
(13,634 posts)it. Illegal and they lied. Then ends with "The twin towers came down during your brothers rein! Never forget that!" So we should never have given "W" the support he received.
By illegal I'm assuming he means lying to Congress. That's why I never hold the votes against any democrats. They are supposed to be able to rely on the information that comes out of the intelligence committee. They were lied to, courtesy of Dick Cheney.
louis-t
(23,309 posts)his venture into what it is like to snuff someone who "isn't nice to him". I think he got off on it and will try to do it again. Watch.
Baitball Blogger
(46,772 posts)where they can order kills. Very frightening!