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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:46 AM Jan 2020

Prison "accidently" destroyed both copies of video of Epstein's 1st suicide attempt...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/video-from-jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-try-destroyed-feds-admit?ref=home

In the latest screw up in Jeffrey Epstein’s death case, federal officials revealed Thursday that video of the cell where the pedophile reportedly made his first suicide attempt was accidentally destroyed.

The surveillance footage was requested by Epstein’s cellmate, accused killer ex-cop Nicholas Tartaglione, who is hoping it will show he “acted appropriately” and earn him a break at sentencing.

Last month, federal prosecutors said the video had been found. But in a letter to the judge on Thursday, they said it turns out that staff at the Metropolitan Correctional Center “inadvertently preserved video from the wrong tier,” and the video from the correct one “no longer exists.”

...

“It is stunning that a video which we asked to be preserved and which the jail should have saved without a request was destroyed,” he said in a statement. “More troubling are the various and inconsistent accounts of what happened to the video.”

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Prosecutors initially said it was lost, then said they found it and would turn it over. In Thursday’s letter, they said when they got it and converted it into playable form, they realized it didn’t show the correct cell.

Apparently, they said, Tartaglione’s cell was misidentified in the MCC system, so prison lawyers preserved the wrong video.

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“The Government understands from speaking with MCC legal counsel that there was a backup system in place that housed all video for the Special Housing Unit, including the video requested by defense counsel,” the prosecutors wrote. “The Government further understands from the Federal Bureau of Investigation that it has reviewed that backup system as part of an unrelated investigation and determined that the requested video no longer exists on the backup system and has not since at least August 2019 as a result of technical errors.”




Timeline:

- Epstein arrested

- July 23rd, first suicide-attempt, while his cell-mate Nicholas Tartaglione is in the cell.

- Epstein placed under suicide-watch.

- Epstein removed from suicide-watch.

- Cell-mate removed from his cell.

- Both prison-wardens responsible for regularly checking up on Epstein did not do so and falsified work-logs to pretend that they did.

- August 10th, second suicide-attempt, Epstein dies.

- August, a "technical error" destroys the backup-copy of the July 23rd tape.

- Attorney General William Barr has said that he has personally reviewed the August 10th tape and that nobody entered Epstein's cell.

- Nicholas Tartaglione cites the July 23rd video of their cell as evidence that he acted properly and demanded that the prosecutors hand it over.

- The prosecutors said, they had lost the July 23rd tape.

- The prosecutors said, they had found the July 23rd tape.

- The prosecutors said, when they had looked at the July 23rd tape, it turned out to be from the wrong cell.

- The prosecutors said, that the prison mixed up the serial-numbers of the cells and the July 23rd tape from the wrong cell was preserved by the prison.






If the prison mixed up cell-numbers in their camera-surveillance, how can we be sure that the August 10th tape of Epstein's cell really shows Epstein's cell?

Who else but Barr has seen it?
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Prison "accidently" destroyed both copies of video of Epstein's 1st suicide attempt... (Original Post) DetlefK Jan 2020 OP
Nothing is an accident. Historic NY Jan 2020 #1
Who is still using tape? HipChick Jan 2020 #2
DOJ Nature Man Jan 2020 #19
Jails? jmowreader Jan 2020 #22
You'd be surprised... lame54 Jan 2020 #23
This is total BS! LittleGirl Jan 2020 #3
It won't surprise me a bit, if Barr didn't strangle him with his dewsgirl Jan 2020 #4
But it was all perfectly normal. 2naSalit Jan 2020 #5
I would like to pity the people who believe this was accidental. TNNurse Jan 2020 #6
First off, this is all bullshit and he was clearly murdered. blugbox Jan 2020 #7
I dunno. Seems suspicious as hell fescuerescue Jan 2020 #8
Department of Coincidences needs to look into this. gibraltar72 Jan 2020 #9
This is no laughing matter, but... MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #10
Wow, there sure are a lot of "accidents" and "glitches" and "screw ups" at this Yavin4 Jan 2020 #11
Bullshit. One of their highest priority inmates....and theY 'lost' 2 videos? BULLSHIT spanone Jan 2020 #12
Nuh uh! gratuitous Jan 2020 #14
The contents of Epstein's safe aren't gone yet, are they? Baked Potato Jan 2020 #13
How would we know? They have not been made public and may never be csziggy Jan 2020 #15
Exactly, I was being a little facetious here Baked Potato Jan 2020 #16
They could be a great replacement for the Hoover files the FBI used to have csziggy Jan 2020 #17
Yes, and the contents of David Pecker's safe too, of National Enquirer fame Baked Potato Jan 2020 #20
Ooooh! I'd forgotten about the Pecker Files! csziggy Jan 2020 #21
DU's legal/medical teams and top tier donor class Nature Man Jan 2020 #18

Nature Man

(869 posts)
19. DOJ
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

can tell you the contents of an email that you sent on April 17, 2013 but doesn't have surveillance preservation protocols in place?

I'm amazed, I tell ya, AMAZED!

TNNurse

(6,931 posts)
6. I would like to pity the people who believe this was accidental.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:34 AM
Jan 2020

However, they are Trump supporters so I cannot have any positive feelings toward them.

blugbox

(951 posts)
7. First off, this is all bullshit and he was clearly murdered.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jan 2020

Even if all of this were actually some kind of honest huge fuck-up, it is prime evidence that our prison system is in complete shambles. This is utter failure on every single level. There is no way we can have a functioning prison system if everyone is this inept.

What this is showing is that it is getting very difficult to have someone murdered in prison without opening lots of cans of worms.

Who knows... The video might show Barr or a prison official handing him a rope and saying the guards will be by in half an hour so get to work...

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
8. I dunno. Seems suspicious as hell
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:32 AM
Jan 2020

But then I've also seen just how totally incompetent the justice system is in general. I've also seen how totally incompetent their technology capability is to.

I did some IT work for the Federal courts a few years back and I was astounded at how incapable their IT staff is. Also - they are pretty much accountable to anyone. Your average fortune 500 company has far more regulation and accountability and that's saying alot.

And the worst of it? Prison and jail staff. The average jail employee is slightly less capable than the average prisoner. Prisoners and guards are both there for the same reason - they HAVE to be. guards because they can't find better work and prisoners for obvious reasons.

I'm not sold on the story. But it's certainly plausible.

Yavin4

(35,453 posts)
11. Wow, there sure are a lot of "accidents" and "glitches" and "screw ups" at this
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Jan 2020

prison. The cameras just happen to be down. The guards just happen to be sleeping. Video happens to be lost.


Quite a confluence of circumstances.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Nuh uh!
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jan 2020

And if they find a third copy of the tape, that will get accidentally destroyed, too. Which should convince everyone about how accidental all this has been, shouldn't it?

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
15. How would we know? They have not been made public and may never be
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

If they are still in Epstein's house, I would not be surprised if it burns to the ground. If they are in some bureaucratic office, I would not be surprised if they disappear or turn out to be "innocuous".

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
16. Exactly, I was being a little facetious here
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jan 2020

I believe the FBI has all the contents. We’ll never know.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
17. They could be a great replacement for the Hoover files the FBI used to have
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jan 2020

Think of how the FBI could keep misbehaving politicians in line by casually mentioning the Epstein files...

It's been rumored that is what Hoover used to do.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
21. Ooooh! I'd forgotten about the Pecker Files!
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jan 2020

I wonder where they are now - as if we'd ever find out that or what was in them.

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