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mysteryowl

(7,405 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:22 AM Jan 2020

Kentucky Republicans push restrictive voting law after landmark Democratic win

New bureaucratic hurdle where voters must carry ID with a photo likely to affect minorities and students.

Last month, Kentucky elected Democratic governor Andy Beshear in a closely watch election – a landmark blue win in a mostly conservative state. One of the core promises of his campaign was to restore voting rights to 140,000 people with felony convictions, which he fulfilled immediately after taking office.

Weeks after Beshear issued his historic executive order, however, Kentucky Republicans have proposed a restrictive new bureaucratic hurdle that will likely make it more difficult for minorities and students in the state to vote.

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Kentucky already requires voter ID at the polls, but the new policy would take this a step further to require a photo and an expiration date. Minorities, who are less likely to possess an acceptable form of ID, and students, are particularly likely to be affected. The University of Kentucky and the University of Louisville, two of the biggest schools in the state, do not currently have expiration dates on their student IDs. This is a tactic that has been used in several other states, often to curb the vote of young and transient populations more likely to vote for Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/10/kentucky-republicans-voter-fraud

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I think the new GOTV campaign needs to include "Get your Photo ID".

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Kentucky Republicans push restrictive voting law after landmark Democratic win (Original Post) mysteryowl Jan 2020 OP
when republicans lose elections they make it harder to vote. happens over & over again. spanone Jan 2020 #1
Of course . . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #2
Steal and cheat.... mindem Jan 2020 #3
It keeps working for them NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #5
See? Trying to rig the game. That's the ONLY way they can win. calimary Jan 2020 #4
The GOP war on the constitution continues. bronxiteforever Jan 2020 #6
The GOP is the minority, and minority rule requires the destruction of democracy. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #7
Why not just apply for U.S. Passport card. Wouldn't that meet the requirements. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #8
Sounds like a good idea. Democratic politicians should help voters get a passport as an ID. UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #10
This!! If they want to play their thieving game, we need to side step Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #13
The passport card would probably PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #11
$65 for 10 years is a good buy. Considering the fee some states require to get a state issued ID. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #15
Yes, it is a good buy. Especially for us with a bit of discretionary income. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #23
Voter Suppression keep them broke and needing to work. Apply a "poll tax". Cost for voter ID usaf-vet Jan 2020 #24
But, can't our new Democratic governor veto this move? machoneman Jan 2020 #9
Yes he can veto Lexblues Jan 2020 #31
If KY wants to make its citizens jump through hoops just to vote Ohiogal Jan 2020 #12
Death to AmerKKKa Traildogbob Jan 2020 #14
I almost burst out laughing when I hear a member of the media say " our democracy " . The corruption geretogo Jan 2020 #16
No "democracy" would put up with the GOP's bullshit Cosmocat Jan 2020 #20
They can't win a fair fight. mac56 Jan 2020 #17
why not just require a modest tax to be paid at the polling station? RT Atlanta Jan 2020 #18
Or a quick three or four of twenty question citizenship quiz? gratuitous Jan 2020 #22
The GOP is blatantly white supremacist ... "must have an expiration date". Can't get more KPN Jan 2020 #19
"The University of Kentucky and the University of Louisville... LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #21
They can't win if they can't cheat and steal. Initech Jan 2020 #25
Russiapublicans hate democracy Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #26
Someone better start getting people informed if they want to get rid of the weasel McConnell Historic NY Jan 2020 #27
I hate them. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #28
back to beating the "voter fraud" dead horse; another CROOKED Secretary of State diva77 Jan 2020 #29
It is time to pass laws for Free voter picture ID available for everyone. mysteryowl Jan 2020 #33
This makes me wonder more than ever where the $250 million for election "security" approved by diva77 Jan 2020 #30
So how do you get a legit voter ID in Kentucky? UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #32

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
5. It keeps working for them
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jan 2020

and, they'll keep trying it until Democrats start doing the same - maybe consolidate voting areas in rural towns so Pa and Ma Deplorable have to drive farther to vote and stand in line for a long time...

calimary

(81,549 posts)
4. See? Trying to rig the game. That's the ONLY way they can win.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jan 2020

They CHEAT. They can’t win unless they cheat.

They can’t win unless they cheat.

They cannot win unless they cheat.

SunSeeker

(51,760 posts)
7. The GOP is the minority, and minority rule requires the destruction of democracy.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jan 2020

Their goal is something akin to the old Apartheid system of South Africa, where the majority (people of color) are excluded from the political process.

usaf-vet

(6,227 posts)
8. Why not just apply for U.S. Passport card. Wouldn't that meet the requirements.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:03 PM
Jan 2020

Easy to carry in a wallet. I use it as a second form of ID that I carry in my pocket when I am not driving and carrying my DL.

The fact that state schools DO NOT add photo and expiration date seems to be a republican idea. I live in a republican controlled state and have a state-issued Conceal Carry Permit which does NOT have a photo on it. I have always thought that this was a planned move to leave the photo off so that it could not be used as proof of ID for voting.

Voter suppression any way you can facilitate it is a GOP plan.

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
10. Sounds like a good idea. Democratic politicians should help voters get a passport as an ID.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jan 2020

The main problem for a passport is the cost and length of time to get one.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,918 posts)
11. The passport card would probably
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jan 2020

work, but getting it, or a passport itself, is a bit of a hassle. However students ought to be able to handle that. Poor people, especially minorities, would find the cost ($65 for the first one, good for ten years, renewal currently $30) prohibitive.

usaf-vet

(6,227 posts)
15. $65 for 10 years is a good buy. Considering the fee some states require to get a state issued ID.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jan 2020

Wisconsin doesn't say the card is FREE upfront. If you call them on it they will admit it. At least that is the way the program ran in the beginning.

Of course, if they really wanted to just make sure you are who you say you are why not issue secured tamper-proof federal Social Security cards with your photo and fingerprint. I know it would be an expensive tantamount task but if the goal is to secure your identity it would be worth the time and expenses.

But I believe the goal is voter suppression and the more disjointed they can keep it state to state the better chance they can suppress access to voting. Just look at what happens if you move to another state for school or a job. A whole new set of hoops to jump thru to get a Voter ID.

IT'S PLANNED THAT WAY. OR as we say in the computer software world. It is not a bug it is a feature.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,918 posts)
23. Yes, it is a good buy. Especially for us with a bit of discretionary income.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jan 2020

But it is a lot of money for someone struggling and who decides every day whether to eat or pay rent or buy medicine or shoes for the kids.

usaf-vet

(6,227 posts)
24. Voter Suppression keep them broke and needing to work. Apply a "poll tax". Cost for voter ID
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jan 2020

Suppressed voters NEVER get to decide who will represent THEM. That's the way the GOP wants it. The GOP will decide who will vote them into office. And the circus goes around and around.

machoneman

(4,016 posts)
9. But, can't our new Democratic governor veto this move?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jan 2020

Do the R-scums have enough votes to overcome said veto? Would like to know...............

 

Lexblues

(180 posts)
31. Yes he can veto
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 05:20 AM
Jan 2020

But the governor, I believe, can wait to veto bills until the end of the legislative session and virtually make it impossible for legislators to have time to override them.

Ohiogal

(32,122 posts)
12. If KY wants to make its citizens jump through hoops just to vote
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jan 2020

The state elections committee should provide ample aid to help its poorer citizens with this added burden.

Yeah, I know, like that’s going to happen ....

Traildogbob

(8,856 posts)
14. Death to AmerKKKa
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jan 2020

All the chanting by Middle Eastern countries should not alarm us. Death is heading at us like a run away freight train, not because of them, but because of us. A Putin is driving. We allow the criminal corruption while playing nice and they beat us like tRumpers beat their wives dogs and kids. God be blessin us.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
16. I almost burst out laughing when I hear a member of the media say " our democracy " . The corruption
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jan 2020

makes me sick . We are going the way of Rome in its last years .

Cosmocat

(14,576 posts)
20. No "democracy" would put up with the GOP's bullshit
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jan 2020

All their high and might bloviating about FREEDOM, THE CONSTITUTION, FOUNDING FATHERS, etc and there is NOTHING more fundamental to it all than voting, and the most of the country has no problem with all the shit they pull like this, gerrymandering, how $$$ pours into our elections, etc.

This romantic notion we have of this country does not square very well with the reality of it, and what the people here enable.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
18. why not just require a modest tax to be paid at the polling station?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jan 2020

Hmmm....

That 'party' really is focused only on retaining their positions of power and not representing the broader body politic. Just old wealthier white guys and mostly white hicks that have been (surprisingly) convinced through a combination of 'religion,' xenophobia, racism, etc. to vote against their own personal interests.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Or a quick three or four of twenty question citizenship quiz?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

So glad the Roberts court decided that pre-screening these things was no longer required since the U.S. is all totally not-racist now.

KPN

(15,668 posts)
19. The GOP is blatantly white supremacist ... "must have an expiration date". Can't get more
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jan 2020

transparently obvious and oppressive than that. I hope the two State universities take the fuckers to court if this passes.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
21. "The University of Kentucky and the University of Louisville...
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jan 2020

...two of the biggest schools in the state, do not currently have expiration dates on their student IDs"

Why couldn't those universities simply stamp an expiration date on ID cards, even if specifically for the upcoming election?

diva77

(7,671 posts)
29. back to beating the "voter fraud" dead horse; another CROOKED Secretary of State
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:15 AM
Jan 2020

more from OP's article:

Michael Adams, the Kentucky secretary of state, had already been campaigning on a photo ID requirement last year. He told the Louisville Courier-Journal the measure would help deter voter fraud. But Adams also said he could not think of a case of voter impersonation in the state in the last 10 years, and voter fraud in the United States is extremely rare.

“It’s a solution in search of a problem. There’s no issue in Kentucky elections with in-person impersonation,” said Joshua Douglas, a law professor at the University of Kentucky who served on Adams’ transition team. He added that Kentucky already has some of the most restrictive voting laws in the country – a 30-day cutoff for voter registration and no early voting period.


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When is the media gonna expose these CROOKED elections officials????? THIS IS ELECTION MALPRACTICE!!!!!!! The voters have done NOTHING wrong to justify this measure.



K&R for exposure

mysteryowl

(7,405 posts)
33. It is time to pass laws for Free voter picture ID available for everyone.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jan 2020

If the republicans want picture ID, then it needs to free and accessible to EVERYONE, after-all, we are a democracy.

diva77

(7,671 posts)
30. This makes me wonder more than ever where the $250 million for election "security" approved by
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:21 AM
Jan 2020

McTurd ended up --

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/mitch-mcconnell-election-security-bill-.html



Democratic Kentucky Voters, if you're listening...GOTV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
32. So how do you get a legit voter ID in Kentucky?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:39 AM
Jan 2020

One that no republican can deny you the right to vote?

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