and subpoena documents on a third charge, obstruction as defined by the Mueller report.

and, then a 4th if the tax returns/financial docs come out as well and show tax/financial fraud

also fuck him

Don't think he has a choice. It's Pelosi's prerogative what to send over I do believe.

It leaves the first charge open to the addition of new information for a Senate trial at a later date, and as they said, highlights the obstruction. These events happened in the House in plain view of everyone, not on a phone call in Kyiv with only a few witnesses. It *should* be hard to vote to acquit on this, given the Senate is being obstructed too. Maybe they like punishment. Or maybe a secret ballot will rid us of this lawless tyrant once and for all.

Article I, Sec. 5. One-fifth of the Senate can override secrecy and have the vote recorded. No way the losing side won't want it recorded.

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assuming there are witnesses.

Republicans will never admit it publicly, but in private they grumble about Trump’s behavior and would be fine with dumping him for Pence — provided they suffer no negative consequences in the process.

If McConnell sees his majority in jeopardy due to Trump, he’d cut him loose in a heartbeat. He could, for instance, make the vote secret on a temporary basis or only revealed if there is a conviction, and pressure his members to go along. I’m not saying that’s likely, I’m saying never say never in politics.

If twenty Senators want the vote recorded, it will be recorded. I don't see a Constitutional exception for impeachment. Not really any wiggle room on it.

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who want to thwart removal by insisting on a recorded vote.

I can't imagine them seeing anything in a trial that WOULD horrify them......

wifey no likey

Woman says to Sir Winston, "If you were my husband, I'd poison your drink." Churchill says, "Madam, if I was your husband, I'd drink it."

Dismiss a single article

Which would diminish the sending of the second article