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George Conway and Neal Katyal advise Pelosi on how to trip up McConnells impeachment plansOn Friday, conservative attorney George Conway and law professor Neal Katyal wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post suggesting a key way that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) could get the upper hand on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).
Specifically, they argued, Pelosi should split up the articles of impeachment submitting the article of obstruction of Congress, but holding onto the article of abuse of power for further investigation.
Separating the two articles our preferred approach would make perfect sense, they wrote. When it comes to the second article, all the evidence about Trumps obstruction is a matter of public record. Theres nothing more to add, so the second article is ripe for trial. But as to the first, although there is plenty of evidence demonstrating Trumps guilt, his obstruction has prevented all of the evidence from coming to light.
Since the House voted to approve the articles of impeachment last month, new revelations of Trumps involvement have emerged, including emails showing that aid was ordered withheld from Ukraine 91 minutes after Trumps supposedly perfect phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky, they wrote. Trumps former national security adviser, John Bolton, has said he is willing to testify before the Senate if subpoenaed, and Boltons lawyer has said he has new information, yet McConnell has balked at assurances that Bolton would be called.
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KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)All they need to pass that rule is to have 51 votes. My guess is, most of the republican senators would LOVE to have their votes be anonymous. That way, they could vote the cheeto out of office without risking votes from their base.
Hanging on to one article will mean that tRump is still impeached during the SOTU even if Senate acquits first article.
Bloody brilliant!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)Men are always trying to out think her; I'm always amazed at their amazement.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)and then wait to see what She decides. I think that's what happened when L. Tribe suggested she hold them back in the first place.
bucolic_frolic
(43,364 posts)I do suspect there are limits to what Nancy Pelosi can do. But look how far we've come already - a solid, public airing of these alleged crimes with multiple investigations still underway outside Congress, and more lines of inquiry inside. I think the tide has turned, but time will tell.
Fritz Walter
(4,292 posts)This approach has some possible benefits:
Adding new articles specifically for violating the Emoluments Clause (of the US Constitution), and most recently the violation of the War Powers Act/Resolution (law);
Continuing the burr under the saddle tactic that could conceivably push IMPOTUS over the edge, resulting in the invocation of Article 25, catching the RepubliCONs off-guard in an election year.
Stay tuned. Film at eleven
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)bluestarone
(17,067 posts)Nancy has to decide. (she knows what's best)
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)and logical:
"...In the House, Trump prevented executive branch employees from testifying, but said some of them would be able to testify in the Senate. Now that we are in the Senate, Republicans say these folks should have testified in the House. Lewis Carroll would be pleased.
McConnell claims he is adhering to the rules in the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, they said. But theres one big difference: Clinton didnt gag all the witnesses and documents in the House and the predecessor investigation; as a result, there was a full record before the Senate. And there were, in fact, witnesses who were deposed as part of the Senate trial nonetheless. This time, the reason this evidence wasnt generated in the House has everything to do with the defendant in the impeachment case itself. That is the case for sending up the second article now, to put the spotlight on Trumps obstructionism.
Holding the first article back and letting the second go forward would be a powerful and precise response to McConnells unprecedented attempts to avoid committing to a real trial, they concluded. It makes practical sense but also highlights whats at stake here. Trump would be forced to undergo two impeachment trials instead of one but thats a fair price for him to pay for his attempts to hide evidence from the American people.
triron
(22,026 posts)and mobster plus illegitimate to begin with.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)Pelosi thinks she has the 51 votes in the Senate to get the rules she wants. That would destroy McConnell's strategy.
bucolic_frolic
(43,364 posts)By 2021, if Trump squeaks in again, they should fire up an Impeachment Article Factory and crank 'em out like bagels.
Seriously, multiple impeachments are possible here. There really is that much graft.
Dan
(3,583 posts)Think about the mans character! There will be no Republic and no doubt he would jail members of Congress (D) that he thought obstructed his total control of our government.
And the loyal GOP to whom their first loyalty is to Trump, would justify these actions, as long as they can retain their seat at the table. Not understanding history, that they would be next.
triron
(22,026 posts)2naSalit
(86,843 posts)an file charges on.
Thumbs up
BigmanPigman
(51,642 posts)Before she decided not to send the articles she met with Prof. Tribe, and listened to others like John Dean who had the suggestion/idea. Then a ton of us on DU started calling Rep. Hoyer's offices to tell him to tell Nancy to not send them and a few hours later she didn't sent them.
Should we start calling offices again?
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)New Breed Leader
(625 posts)samnsara
(17,650 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)There must be a reason she's going to send them over
ancianita
(36,160 posts)dem4decades
(11,307 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)....and it has been a damn good strategy.