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The subconscious (and conscious) bias we have in the UK to other is still strong. Empire and the notion that we are somehow superior goes deep with a certain type of chap. You know the sort - they all voted for Bexit for a start.
I have done my very best to try and ignore ALL of this. If they want to bugger off and make their own way in the world then good luck to them. I don't blame them one bit. BUT every frigging time you turn on the radio we are confronted with yet another programme dedicated to what they are now calling a constitutional crisis - way to over egg the biscuit . Good grief. The vitriol and nasty that is all over the airwaves and in the papers fully and utterly reinforces that the media coverage they have to endure is not just tinged (and sometimes explicit) in racism, but fundamentally steeped in othering. A black woman at the heart of the establishment has been a challenge to the status quo that many have utterly failed to adapt to. And shame on them.
So this sums up the situation we are currently living in. A bunch of white middle aged privileged talking heads are talking to each about how their coverage of the Duchess of Sussex has not been racist while calling her ungrateful and uppity for not willing to put up with being called ungrateful and uppity, reassuring themselves all the while that there is no way they or their coverage has been racist. But the Sussex's are the ones with problem?
*Deep fucking sigh*
samnsara
(17,651 posts)...and I thought Harry would become a US citizen. However I dont think that will happen with Trump in office. Canada's a good match for them..
area51
(11,932 posts)since they're a civilized country where healthcare is a human right.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,228 posts)paleotn
(17,990 posts)That would be like going form the proverbial frying pan to an even bigger frying pan. ....and you thought the Brits were nuts.
whathehell
(29,100 posts)As the OP, who is British, explained, Britain has it's own brand of nuttiness that has nothing to with America. I imagine Meagan Markle, an American married into royalty who's lived in both countries, is in better position than you to make the comparison.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)house gave us Trump, the ultimate "whi-exit".
whathehell
(29,100 posts)It's a different culture - Please read the post.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)Same shit.
whathehell
(29,100 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:37 AM - Edit history (1)
but you have yourself a nice day.
paleotn
(17,990 posts)One frying pan of nuttiness to another frying pan of nuttiness is what I meant. Not sure how clearer I can make that. Or do you consider today's America NOT nutty, racist and petty?
whathehell
(29,100 posts)Goodbye.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)Fuck all royals everywhere they exist - you cannot have democracy and perpetuate monarchies - either we're all equal or we aren't.
I welcome anything that destroys this BS.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Should structure their symbolic Head of State (which has absolutely nothing to do with democratic head of government) because our system of linking head of state with the head of government has worked out so well here in the US.
FakeNoose
(32,833 posts)... I guess that would invalidate your statement. We have to vote Chump out of office and ban his family from ever running for anything including the county dogcatcher.
Rick Wilson writes about this hilariously in his blog in today's RawStory:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-wilson-drops-the-hammer-on-the-trump-kids-in-a-brutal-column-warning-of-a-trumpian-political-dynasty/
ChiTownDenny
(747 posts)It's all entertainment. We have Hollywood; they have royals. There may be a lot of hot air but neither are making policy. Can't see why anyone would be threatened...unless hot air is threatening.
questionseverything
(9,665 posts)plus the costs of their security is tax payer born so it is not harmless at all
muriel_volestrangler
(101,396 posts)so this directly affects her too.
malaise
(269,237 posts)Correct
The whole idea of monarchy and empire needs to go.
Even MF45 acts like an absolute tyrannous monarch!
malaise
(269,237 posts)Journeyman
(15,042 posts)We stood on the street corner, watching the procession go by, and shouted:
"Up Chuck and Di! Up Chuck and Di!"
I couldn't agree with you more, malaise. A bloody anachronism to be sure.
malaise
(269,237 posts)to wave at these fucking parasites. I was never one of them.
Up Chuck and Di! Love it.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Who knew?
Sanity Claws
(21,862 posts)He is very serious about his marriage vows. Really. That is the rumor I heard.
His fooling around with other women is supposedly one of the sore points with Harry.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Not surprising in terms of the British upper class.
coeur_de_lion
(3,687 posts)I read an article that said people who make this kind of radical change in direction in their lives are usually the ones who are content when they reflect back on their lives.
In the long run this will be very good for them and for their son.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Never looked back and it taught me a lot
coeur_de_lion
(3,687 posts)Whenever I do something radical I end up happier for it.
Tink41
(537 posts)It must be a decision that will benefit the two making it. Time and again I've found the more frantic the protesting, teeth gnashing, gloom and doom coming from the other side the more beneficial to those wanting change. From what I've seen I'd be terrified to stay, it almost seems a cult, Harry and his bride are really taking a beating.
bucolic_frolic
(43,396 posts)but I think they are great people and hope it all works out well for them. If anyone can make positive changes in the world, it ought to be them.
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)I heard a British person on NPR say that the other royals have just gotten used to the tabloid press. Harry has made it quite clear that the tabloid press got his mother killed. He is just trying to protect his wife and child.
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)Racism is ugly no matter where.
jmbar2
(4,912 posts)..who couldn't understand why their newly emancipated slaves were out of there.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,498 posts)I see the Daily Mail (which makes me ill to look at) is plastered today with lies and innuendo about the Royals, along with their usual plastering of gossip and sexism. They're even pushing rumors of marital problems between Harry and Meghan and bro' problems between Harry and Will, which if there was, they had much to do in causing the problem - just as they did with Harry's mom.
Soph, I've never understood why the British people are so enamored by the tabloids but maybe we're just as bad with our obsessions with talk radio, reality TV shows and sports.....and gossip. This is how people like Murdoch build their empires of destruction.
We wish Harry and Meghan all the best and I hope within the next year or so they finally have some days of peace. This too will pass and the tabloids will move on to other shiny objects.
KY.......
HipChick
(25,485 posts)as their main news feed...serious dumbed down BS
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Link to tweet
When the black delegation traded Kanye in the racial draft for a pick to be named later, no one thought theyd get a member of the royal family!
mitch96
(13,934 posts)But why did they announce it? Tell the mum and get on with it... They invited all this response.
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RobinA
(9,898 posts)Probably not handled the best.
I generally think this is a tempest in a teapot fanned by the British press. Harry is not exactly in imminent danger of being crowned the next monarch, let them go live somewhere in peace. I couldn't tell you where Charles' siblings are or what they do. Or frankly, who they are.
And speaking of Charles, whom I have stood up for since Diana appeared on the scene, he needs to zip it when the subject is royal behavior.
And I WILL add, and people are free to do what they think is best for them in these circumstances, that I think a more effective change agent would be to stand firm right there in London.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,396 posts)had decided to opt out of the royalty business. No Andrew with his dubious support of arms deals, or even more dubious support of a convicted paedophile. What a constitutional crisis that would have been, eh!
MiniMe
(21,722 posts)Bpth are for love, Edward was because Wallace Simpson was divorced, Harry because Meghan is part black
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)not the dark, dystopian notions news-only create. That's what other reports are for.
I truly regret Meghan's and Harry's current problems, but they will pass. That she could marry into the royal family is proof that those reactionaries acting out so badly have already lost. Don't forget to look for Russia's hand, either, in amplifying their helpless fears and angers. The noise hides but can't eliminate the reality that a large majority celebrated this marriage and all it means, just as a large majority here and people around the planet did Obama's election and reelection, and all they mean.
DeminPennswoods
(15,292 posts)Reportedly, Meghan just signed a deal with Disney. They can split their time between Orlando and Anaheim and greet visitors to the Disney parks. Maybe they can spend some time at Euro Disney, too. I don't know what actual skills Harry has, but I'm sure someone will hire him for publicity work. Once two are making their own money, they can seperate from their royal family/royal stipend and do their own thing.
RobinA
(9,898 posts)America's total and final defeat of Britain - the monarchy has been Americanized. Just when many Americans wish they weren't Americanized.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)wnylib
(21,692 posts)and very sad for them that it seems necessary for their own personal happiness.
Besides tbe cruelty of racism for Meghan, there is the painful memory for Harry of what the press did to his mother. Must feel like a deja vu nightmare to him to see them do this again with his wife and children.
May they prosper in peace, happiness, and independence wherever they choose to go.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)There is no other explanation for the madness of media coverage that follows them.
This obsession killed Diana. But they're not special enough to harass unless we say they are. What are we doing?