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https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4421150002?fbclid=IwAR1GecOE72Lu2medVKVKqnLi_5pPHsCjvgcTQpSyXBO94pnoI2W5HsXIL0Q'Evangelicals for Trump' was an awful display by supposed citizens of the Kingdom of God
Trump mocked his enemies, trafficked in half-truths, instilled fear and expressed zero humility. My fellow evangelicals loved every minute of it.
John Fea | Opinion contributor | 17 hours ago
I have spent my entire adult life in the evangelical community. I had a born-again experience when I was 16 and I never looked back. I currently teach history at a Christian college with evangelical roots. As a historian, I study American evangelicalism.
But I have never seen anything like what I witnessed last week as I watched President Donald Trump speak to a few thousand of his evangelical supporters at El Rey Jesus, a largely Hispanic megachurch in Miami, during the kickoff to his Evangelicals for Trump campaign.
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Message to evangelicals: Impeachment is about Donald Trump. It's not an attack on you.
I am used to this kind of thing from Trump, but I was stunned when I witnessed evangelical Christians those who identify with the good news of Jesus Christ raising their hands in a posture of worship as Trump talked about socialism and gun rights.
I watched my fellow evangelicals rising to their feet and pumping their fists when Trump said he would win reelection in 2020.
Trump spent the evening mocking his enemies, trafficking in half-truths in order to instill fear in people whom God commands to fear not, and proving that he is incapable of expressing anything close to Christian humility.
His evangelical supporters loved every minute of it. On Friday night, Christians who claim to be citizens of the Kingdom of God went to church, cheered the depraved words of a president, and warmly embraced his offer of political power. Such a display by evangelicals is unprecedented in American history.
I usually get angry when members of my tribe worship at the feet of Trump. This time I just felt sad.
John Fea, a history professor at Messiah College in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, is the author of "Believe Me: The Evangelical Road to Donald Trump." This column is adapted from a post on his blog. Follow him on Twitter: @JohnFea1
58Sunliner
(4,420 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)play some of his anti-Mexican lines
Takket
(21,655 posts)58Sunliner
(4,420 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)and deeds. Any damn fool can see tRump for what he is!
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)So Aaron replied, Take the gold jewelry from your wives and bring it to me
And the people did this, and Aaron cast for them a calf of the molten gold
And everyone said Behold! this is the god who led us out of slavery!
Aaron build an altar for the calf and said Tomorrow shall be a ceremony for our god
And they rose early to offer sacrifices; they sat down to eat and to drink and then rose up to play
Exodos 32
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,077 posts)above was the worship of the golden calf (although in this case it's the fake golden impotent bull that should have been put out to pasture long ago).
Girard442
(6,087 posts)Seen in one of the photos accompanying the article. Somebody else said it first, but it only takes a slight straightening of the elbow to change that posture to "Heil Trump!"
They might as well. You know they want to.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)Most of us outside the community aren't surprised by this.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)I would bet there is only about 6 degrees of separation between Mr Fea and those he now doesn't seem to recognize.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)He's only concerned with appearances.
paleotn
(17,990 posts)This is nothing new. Many, if not most were theocratic assholes looking for a fascist Messiah. Looks like they found one.
keithbvadu2
(36,987 posts)This is how they 'witness' for Christianity and Christ.
The Donald who ridicules Holy Communion.
The Donald who brags that he does not need Christ's forgiveness.
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)I just do not see evidence of it.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)These are not religious people. They are political hate cults. Tax the hell out of them.
Takket
(21,655 posts)then it makes sense, why they do what they do, and why they ignore the tenants of Christianity.
bucolic_frolic
(43,411 posts)zstat
(55 posts)Imagine: similar promotion before the rally, the same theatrics, the same ranting and raving, the same hysteria as the speech by rump. But words are very different. The words reflect what most any of the candidates support. But the purpose of the speech is to arouse the emotions, to get the audience to raise their hands and clap in support, to be moved by fear and by the good news. But the theatrics have to move the audience by fear.
We certainly discuss all the bad things that are happening. Why not put the fear in the audience with the same theatrics but from a very very different perspective.
Just imagine if one of the candidates gave a theatrical performance similar to what rump does.
icymist
(15,888 posts)eom
58Sunliner
(4,420 posts)Most Dems don't need to be exhorted to feel impassioned about injustice, etc.... And we don't have a large fear complex to play to that isn't based on reality. We are already angry and have realistic expectations for change that we expect our leader to uphold/support. The DT supporters are infantilized, by a moron. They aren't asked to take responsibility for their life or feelings. They are told it's someone else's fault for how they feel. Then they are given scapegoats and permission to hate. A sense of false power and fake esteem. Rinse and repeat.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,789 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)1 Timothy 6:10 King James Version (KJV)
"...which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)The loser wins the election.
The one who is most unlike Christ gets Christian votes.
All his insults to his opponents (Lyin' Ted, Crooked Hillary, Crazy Nancy) describe Trump perfectly.
We're not supposed to make sense of anything. The confusion he creates is pre-meditated. It's mind control of the masses.
GETPLANING
(846 posts)They talk about socialism, gun rights, abortion, race, and changing laws to give them more power over others.
Helping the poor and sick, not so much.
bobo0949
(1 post)How are these people going to explain themselves to God at Judgement? There lies the sadness.
They think, in their self righteousness, that they have a first class ticket through the pearly gates. They should try reading Matthew 25:31-46.
gopiscrap
(23,766 posts)wnylib
(21,701 posts)evangelicalism for its emotional appeal. It's a "feel good" type of religion. Nothing wrong with feeling good, but it becomes an emotional high for them. Someone like Trump sees a ready organization of people to use his emotional approach on. Feeling good to those people means being assurred of special status with God, This us a form if one-upmanship over others.
Give these people a snake oil salesman type like Trumo and that one-upmanship easily translates into smug, self-righteous hatred of 'the other.'
Their adoration of Trump and willingness to buy whatever he sells them is very disturbing. A few people up thread referenced to a Nazi salute and to Hitler himself. People shrink back from that comparison because they immediately think of the worst atrocities of the Nazis once they had complete control
But for those who have looked at the years leading up to Nazi control and how they gained enough of a following to hold power, the comparisons are not that far off. A long range Nazi goal, that they did not share with the public, was to replace existing religions with a quasi religious cult of their own. To that end, they targeted the largest Protestant groups (Reformed and Lutheran) for transforming to Nazi perspectives as 'true Xtianity.' They joined congregations, got onto governing boards like the church councils, and persuaded people that Naxis were fighting "decadent immorality" in society. They formed a nationalistic German Xtian Church.
How could people buy it? They were persuasive enough to recruit Old Order Mennonites into the party and the army. Some became SS officers. Those Mennonites were PACIFISTS and rejected politics and other "things of this world." But in post WW1 chaos, with new civil liberties that were "immoral," even Mennonites were persuaded to become politically active Nazi supporters.
Two clergymen opposed this movement in the churches, Karl Barth and Dietrich Boenhoffer. They founded the Confessing Church in opposition to the Nazi German Church. Barth escaped and survived the Nazis. Bienhoffer was executed in a death camp.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)You've been born again. You subscribe to something for which there is no proof. You try to convert others into this bullshit. You're only fooling yourself if you think you're different.
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Initech
(100,115 posts)Evangelicals don't worship Jesus. Evangelicals worship the Old Testament God, and that God is a raging, egomaniacal asshole, which is why Trump fits their narrative perfectly.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)I guess it would be fitting if religion took out humanity though. :p
This guy must not remember the "moral majority's" utter delight at the AIDS crisis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK234566/
That's a government website. I'm surprised it hasn't been scrubbed.