Having your father's mistress as a step mother is something else.

People find the web of hidden and revealed family relationships in the "Star Wars" movies to be unrealistic but here is a family that even Maury Povich could not sort out.

I have no doubt that he and William both never will. Harry was Diana’s baby.

I can't imagine how anyone (including Harry) really thinks the "institution" retains any relevance in today's world. (but then -- neither British or royal here) Anyway .. why would anyone be willing to accept the restraints and claptrap (and, more importantly raise their children in such an environment?) .. when you have ceased to believe in the "order" yourself?

I think this is a perfectly LOGICAL step for the pair to make .. and I hope they stick to it.
Sometimes "family" is just a convenient excuse for exercising control ...

And they probably convinced themselves she could handle the fishbowl stuff, since she was already in the public eye.

But nothing had prepared her for that experience.

Their marriage suffered due to the press. Sarah Jessica Parker said that when they dated she was already a celebrity on her own but the photographers were horrible when it came to John and his girlfriends and that is why they broke up. England is just as bad, if not worse.

I think that broke the camel's back.

that they just refused to put up with.

in England. Parliament is happy to contribute to its continuation, but now that Harry and Meghan are taking a step back (considering that they are a bigger draw than even Will and Kate, or the Queen) it's going to cause some problems -- mainly financial. After all, we know that it ALL comes down to $$$$ when decisions are made in any country.

Harry has never, ever forgiven the paparazzi for hounding his mother and (no two ways about it) causing her death. I have a feeling they were both planning this before they got married, and he may have had to convince Meghan. He knew she too would be hounded. I'm betting he never thought that racism would enter the picture, given that he served in the British Army with many black, brown and white soldiers.

If they choose to live part-time in Canada, I don't mind a portion of my taxes going to provide their security

that caused the death of his mother. He is sixth in line for succession to the throne, so it's not like he's abdicating.

they were riding in. I know that's not the way her brother and some family members framed it, but she was not killed by tabloid scrutiny.

I have the feeling there may be a close connection between Harry and Diana's brother, who lives in South Africa and never cared much for the royals. Harry and Meghan have already spent quite a bit of time in southern Africa.

No other way to describe it. And the attitude at the time was .. well she KNEW what she was getting in to. In other words, her fault for having stars in her eyes. No, she was not killed by tabloid scrutiny ... But her life was made pretty miserable, on a number of different fronts. Let's not make excuses.

by the paparazzi who were pursuing her. When the investigation was complete, it showed a very drunk driver driving very fast.

Yes, they made her life miserable. But no, they did not kill her. These are two very different things, so lets not conflate them.

...for an intoxicated driver by blaming the press.

in the road. That was all on them and that is something I would never forgive them for.

Her bodyguard in the front passenger seat was the only one wearing a belt and he survived. Travelling at 80-90 mph speeds.

of relying on Dodi’s inferior security system had the royal family not provided her with top security. Once they stripped her of her royal title, she lost all protection. I do blame the royal family for this part of the disaster.

Not like the press were the T-2000 and Diana was Sarah Connor here.

Or ... they weren't driving a Red Barchetta.

He's not in the direct line of succession anyway. Monarchs have abdicated before and the UK survived, so what if someone who's even in the direct line decides to get away from it all?

I now... I know... "Duty to the country" and all that. That's all admirable and so on, but, in reality, what difference does it make if they bow out?

In the event that little Prince George comes to the throne before his 18th birthday, there will be a regent. According to statute, the regent will be the most senior person in the line of succession who is over the age of 21. That would be Harry.

If Harry is gone, the next person in line is....Andrew.

There is legislation that may have to be revisited and perhaps revised.

https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/will-harry-and-meghans-decision-lead-to-a-new-regency-act-135996/

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/insight/following-harry-meghans-resignation-who-are-the-senior-royals-135939/

Charles isn't even king yet and William will be king after him; THEN George. Unless there's some catastrophe, I can't imagine that both Charles and William would die or abdicate in the next 12 years.

in the unlikely event that it becomes necessary?

of the royal family". Would Harry be willing to be the regent should the unlikelihood arise?

Supposing that he would be willing to help his nephew by acting as regent, my question is would he be prohibited from doing so, under the rules that are currently in place.

It's not a matter of "helping out". It's a constitutional mandate.

For the latest:

https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/sussex/the-queens-statement-gives-us-a-major-clue-about-how-the-duke-duchess-of-sussex-will-be-known-in-the-future-136247/

Supposing the answer to the question you asked in post #72 is Yes, would Harry be prohibited from doing so, under the rules that are currently in place?

A security guard on Princess Di`s detail said, they tried to tell her and Dodi to give the press an itinerary of where they will be at specific times so that they could take there photos and soon the press would become uninterested in following them but Dodi would not agree.
So the more secret they were it inflamed the press to pay more for photos. So he claims that was what got them killed.

who could understand why they would not want every moment of their lives photographed?

They would have followed her everywhere, itinerary or no itinerary. Yes, the driver was over the limit, but if the paparazzi hadn't been following them on motorcycles, the driver wouldn't have needed to speed up to get away from them. Those photogs are vultures, hoping to sell their sleazy pics to the tabloids. And the tabloid owners like Rupert Murdoch will do anything to sell more newspapers.

Fortunately Canadian newspapers show a great deal more respect.

by the media. He is being a good husband by trying to protect his wife and child.

unfortunately will follow them wherever they go

...of themselves, but Nooooo - there they are, the self-centered cheaters, happy as clams.

Pisses me off every time I see her.

Diana was put thru hell because of Charles and Camilla.

I knew the press hounded Megan and said awful things about her and blamed her for a lot of things. I read that a BBC radio person posted a picture of a chimpanzee holding hands walking between a man and woman when announcing they had gone home from the hospital. Comparing that innocent little baby to a chimp is horrid. That’s what they’ve been dealing with and I don’t blame him a bit for not wanting his family being subjected to such nasty racial hatred. Good for them walking away to make a life of their own.

It was unforgivable.

but when another side of me takes over, I think the only ones I ever thought of worthwhile following were Diana, Meghan and Harry, and the Corgis, although not necessarily in that order.

Multiply that several times over for the British tabloids over Meghan. The whole concept of race is just stupid to start with, but we humans seem to need a way to put people in little pigeon holes. I’m thrilled that five of the recent major world beauty contests have been won by black women. They’re all beautiful young women, but I have to say that Miss Universe is an absolute stunner!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/style/black-women-win-beauty-pageants.html

and laugh at Mrs. tRump’s coat thing she always wears over her arms.......

that picture of Harry and William having to walk so far behind the casket is just heartbreaking

from what I understand though, they don't hate Camilla

He looks so young in that picture.
He was just 12, a very young 12. His mother had tried to shield him.

so sad.

They've really been thrashed by the media, Meghan in particular, and I wish them well. Harry has "people skills" like nobody's business and I admit to being a bit curious about how the Sussex Royal foundation takes shape.

because HE had been forced to do it at the funerals after his sister and her family's plane crashed and killed all aboard. Prince Philip is the poster boy for toxic masculinity.

Harry has said he did not want to do, was made to do it, and it was a nightmare for him.

Harry looks just like his grandfather

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If you look, Harry's head is nothing like Hewitt's, the shape is more like his granddad when the granddad was young.

The tabloid crap driving them to their decision to split.

Anyhow, you should see my 3rd grandson, whose daddy has black hair and quite a dark tan: the kid's hair is white so far and his eyes are sky-blue, but when you compare features there is no doubt who daddy is.

Also my son, whose father I divorced when he was about 2 yo, never looked like my side of the family, or his sister, or even much like his dad. It wasn't until I took the kids on a long trip to visit some of their dad's relatives that my son (and his snarky sister) took one look at their late grandmother's brother and realized my son was the image of his great-uncle.

ZERO chance he is that idiot Hewitt's son -- he literally can't be. And, Harry looks exactly like his grandfather, with Spencer coloring. Period.

Just stop with this garbage -- it's what helped drive his mother to illness.

C-word Camilla is now his "step mum." *Gag* They destroyed his mother.

Skip Maureen Dowd's column in today's NYT about this matter.

actually I was following several facebook conversations about it

In the off chance that she even has an editor any more. I mean, using the words "imbroglio" and "seraglio" in the same sentence? Puh-lease......

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playing the Race Card big time.

and the Royals like to generally think of themselves as not racist or bigoted. It is laughable. The British media is busy denying anything of the sort while conveniently refusing to even mention the bigotry against Catholics re the Royals that is codified in law and was updated as recently as 2013. It is forbidden for a Royal who converts to Catholicism or is Catholic to ever take the throne. It's the whole Monarch is "in charge" of the Church of England. They are apparently so shallow and afraid and think that if a Catholic ascended the throne that they would screw around with their church. Rather than realize that most any thinking adult would simply stand aside in any Church matters. It could also be paranoia about retribution for how the British/Protestants have treated the Catholics for centuries in Ireland, the 6 counties and elsewhere. Prior to the changes in 2013 if you were a Royal who even married a Catholic you were stricken from ever being able to take the throne. As recently as 2018 the Queen struck a young princess Royal from Morocco from almost everything to do with the Royals when she converted to Catholicism. For any of you Brits who want to defend this and might want to jump on me about the monarch being required to take Communion with the Church of England, please spare us all any high and lofty platitudes about the conduct of the Royals, the Church of England and their supposed sanctity of Communion. Given the conduct of this bunch in their personal lives, the blood on their hands from escapades of their creaking "Empire" and the hypocrisy of it all it is way too late for using God, religion and Communion as a defense.

It's sad, but true. Headlines like, "Straight (almost) out of Compton) weren't helpful. When she has done the same thing as other "royals" (editing a magazine like Kate and Charles), she was criticized. Her love of avocados resulted in a daily fail headline saying that she was contributing to famine, draught, and war. When Kate was pregnant, the daily fail wrote how sweet it was that William gave her avocados for her morning sickness. When Kate cradled her baby bump (a term I hate), they wrote it was maternal. When Meghan did it, they criticized her asking why she did it so often. Her whole treatment has been disgusting.


I'm no royalist, but if they relocate to Canada I'm fine with it.

You caused Diana's death.

You have driven this bullshit with Harry and Meghan.

You do realize continuing to hound these two will be over the top harassment and I hope a bodyguard takes a shot at you .

People need privacy, but you all are just dicks and killers!

We DO NOT have a need to know!

royal family said Meghan was fine as a "girlfriend or mistress" but for gods sake you can't marry her.... I keep saying that they are just upset that she has the most wondrous tan and they look like milk curdling in the sun.

when he takes over. Don't know what the big deal is here. They will still represent the Queen at times. Harry is seeing his wife hounded and harassed; I give him credit for protecting her and their son.

I feel so bad for them living through that shit that is the Global Press. I just want them to be happy and raise this family how they want, and SCREW THE OTHER ROYALS.

So people would know that they are probably not who they think they are.

she seems like one of the lesser loathsome of the bunch. Andrew/Queen/Fergie/everyone who swept his shenanigans under the rug are the worst of the bunch. And Princess Michael the racist.

The meltdown that is happening about two people who decided to move is reaching absurd levels.

We have celebrity culture in America, but no celebrity can claim a divine right to star in a reality show or movie.

Yes, the royal family boosts tourism. But so does Disney World in Orlando.

any day. They are harmless compared to our self-proclaimed aristocracy.

How he was paraded about with his brother after his mother's death, how he had to
march behind her coffin, etc etc.

Hes probably thinking, that they should've kept me and William away from the public for
months after her death.

He married someone they don't approve of, and now he wants out. But only kinda sorta.

The bizarre love for royalty here is a bit disturbing.

Every additional "news story" or post about this confirms why he should leave too.