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BY BRANDON SPECKTOR
JANUARY 14, 2020 / 10:03 AM / LIVESCIENCE.COM
In November 2004, several U.S. Navy pilots stationed aboard the USS Nimitz encountered a Tic-Tac-shaped UFO darting and dashing over the Pacific Ocean in apparent defiance of the laws of physics. Navy officials dubbed the strange craft an "unidentified aerial phenomenon," but they have remained mum on what, exactly, that phenomenon could've been. Now, unsurprisingly to anyone who's ever considered making a hat out of tinfoil, the military has confirmed they know more than they're letting on.
In response to a recent Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, a spokesperson from the Navy's Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) confirmed that the agency possesses several top-secret documents and at least one classified video pertaining to the 2004 UFO encounter, Vice reported.
According to the ONI spokesperson, these documents were either labeled "SECRET" or "TOP SECRET" by the agencies that provided them, and that sharing the information with the public "would cause exceptionally grave damage to the National Security of the United States."
These top-secret files included several "briefing slides" about the incident, provided to the ONI by an unnamed agency. (Because ONI officials did not classify the slides personally, they are unable to declassify them, the spokesperson added).
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SWBTATTReg
(22,183 posts)caper, and now they decide to be closed mouth about it? What it is going on?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...which detection, ranging and/or imaging systems aboard the Nimitz were used to attempt to observe the phenomenon, what are the capabilities or operational status of those systems, etc..
Is that something they should publish?
SWBTATTReg
(22,183 posts)means asking them to reveal technologies etc., never was (the technology isn't of interest to me and I'm sure others perhaps), it's the images themselves.
Either way, if someone compiled a report on the incident, there is a wealth of information that could not be disclosed, and which has nothing to do with the phenomenon under observation, but a lot to do with the tools used to observe it.
But once again, we find that aliens put a lot of effort into getting into earth's atmosphere from interstellar space, but they are powerless against a bureaucracy to make their existence known.
As noted in the OP:
"These top-secret files included several "briefing slides" about the incident..."
Notice that nobody is trying to hide that there was an incident of an unidentified aerial phenomenon. But since the reports, files and briefing slides aren't public information, then the government is hiding aliens again.
SWBTATTReg
(22,183 posts)technology. Amazing isn't it?
I'm just curious as to why the government came forth to finally acknowledge that UFOs and such technology surrounding them existed?
Is it perhaps they believe that someone in the public sector might know more about these events/UFOs then is being acknowledged? If so, I find it rather odd being that revealing such technology (the UFOs and propulsion system(s)) would be in the public interest in being revealed, especially when such technologies would be better hidden than being revealed.
It's just curious to me what purpose are they really shooting for in revealing these events to the public.
More questions raised than being answered, perhaps.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Um, the government has long acknowledged that people in the military, just like people everywhere else, sometimes look in the sky, see something, and don't know what it is.
Additionally, the US government has jurisdiction over a relatively small portion of the planet's surface, so it's not as if the US government has the ability to determine what everyone on earth can know about what goes on in the sky.
SWBTATTReg
(22,183 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But, of course, there are those who are going to conclude that the classified information is about the critters from outer space, instead of the other information there.
A lot of information about military equipment is classified. If a particular satellite detected or failed to detect an apparent object observed from a ship, then that would disclose information about the systems involved and the detection capabilities of those systems.
But, yeah, instead... Mork.
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... much up to speed on our technology anyway. But yeah, we need to keep the Klingons in the dark as long as possible.
getagrip_already
(14,907 posts)Or did trump piss them off?
sarisataka
(18,839 posts)Klingons and tribbles don't get along, so Klingons aren't going anywhere near Trump
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Yawn
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... to entertain you. Ill try harder next time.
Odoreida
(1,549 posts)... and everything to do with secret weapons testing.
There was a lot of that.
PJMcK
(22,059 posts)If there are alien life forms, they are almost certainly not the source of UFO sightings.
The military doesn't want our enemies to know or understand our capabilities for observing things.
By the way, the "U" in "UFO" means Unidentified. The person who saw the UFO has no idea what it was. Why must it be aliens?
So silly.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I should have gone through school saying that.
"Sure, the math teacher says 2+2=4, but what if that's what she wants us to believe?"
Well, yeah, it is what she wanted us to believe. The plan has deep roots here, PJ. Deep, deep roots.
PJMcK
(22,059 posts)In your example, the square root of 4 is... wait for it... 2!
I want to believe!
jayfish
(10,040 posts)say(s) we aren't capable of anything like this and won't be any time in the near future.
If the time stamp doesn't work; skip to 27:45
I'm not going to get in an argument about this other than to say humans don't know shit about anything when it comes to physics. We aren't even toddlers yet.
PJMcK
(22,059 posts)Physicists know a little bit more about the universe than fighter pilots.
"Just because you don't know what it is you're looking at doesn't mean it's intelligent aliens visiting from another planet. You just said you don't know what you're looking at!"
Polybius
(15,514 posts)If it's not aliens then it's some some sorta hyper advanced drone from another government or a private genius that we still can't replicate 16 years later.
Besides those two explanations, anything else it could be?
Runningdawg
(4,527 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,486 posts)At least, that's what George Noory at Coast to Coast is saying.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Great impeachment distraction...
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Is more damaging if they try to cover up any UFO activity.
Hekate
(90,913 posts)Just don't, for gods' sake, tell Trump.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Either ours, Russians, Chinese, or Israelites.
hunter
(38,339 posts)This is what happens when you crib your code off the internet.
I would have made it Sean Connery riding in a big stone head instead of a tictac.
Piasladic
(1,160 posts)and whatever you do, don't scroll down to that picture in the middle
doc03
(35,396 posts)saw our leader they would figure there is no intellegent life here and go home.
Xolodno
(6,408 posts)...is going to be so superior to us that they will arrive completely undetected or with a big bang that will scare the shit out of us.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)well, we simply can't have that, we have a treaty, the high council will hear about this