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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSounds like Trump may have been involved in a Murder Plot, Yovanovitch
A few good threads, but I wanted to start one with the proper title. They were talking about killing her and she was rushed out of the country for her safety because of it. And Trump had to know.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Thanks!
AJT
(5,240 posts)Link to tweet
?s=09
Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)This was a hit, the were following her and trying to get past her security. My god, Trump's words are so chilling now: "She's going to be going through some things."
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Thank you for the tweet.
dweller
(23,684 posts)😡
✌🏼
Captain Zero
(6,845 posts)Hmmmm
Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)Let's see what he says under oath in public.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)We can't depend on Republicans to care about this and remove him. Trump is a tyrant and must be dragged out of the White House and put in handcuffs immediately.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)If this doesn't end his presidency, nothing will.
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)Who is the Robert F. Hyde who surfaced in House Intelligence Committee documents?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)This is part of it. This is just nuts and Nancy herself has got to be stunned.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)What does Nancy have?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)Surveillance of a US diplomat with those texts exchanged about negotiating a price and getting her away from security. It's incredibly explosive and damning.
Zoonart
(11,890 posts)On an American Ambasdador?
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
C_U_L8R
(45,027 posts)He really is a Putin-wannabe.
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)RING THE BELL
THE MATCH IS OVER
You ruthless mobster fuckers are
DONE
FINISHED
KAPUT
Hells comin for you, and his name is LEV
And the WHISTLEBLOWER
And Amb YOVANOVICH ET AL
Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)But they'll spin this, they are depraved.
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)Give it a minute, everybodys busy
And hey, check this:
On October 2, 2019, Jay Sekulow ... informed ... John Dowd that he had discussed with President Trump 'the issue of representation' and that President Trump 'consents to allowing your representation of Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman.'"
On October 10, Trump denied knowing Parnas.
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BOOYAH!!!
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)Thats getting closer.
tblue37
(65,502 posts)Delphinus
(11,845 posts)but I'm afraid you are right. AND the compromised repukes do not care!!!
I want it to be told CLEARLY and LOUDLY in every paper and on every TV and Radio station.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)The mafia never talks in terms of "Kill her." These conversations are exactly what a hit sounds like, they even go further in talking about getting her away from security, having someone inside, and naming a price. This is the type of conversation that gets mob bosses sent to prison. The FBI knows exactly what they are talking about, and so do we.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)physical danger. Other sources have reported that Ukraine's corrupt oligarchs/organized crime, who are hand in glove with Putin and are perfectly capable of murder, including by throwing acid on people who cross them, had been working for some months on framing Yovanovich for corruption. That would all seem to fit Trump's "some things are going to happen to her" a bit more than murder, which could have been carried out much more quickly. And everything else would fit as well.
All during this period Yovanovich had friends/allies in the State Department working to protect her and her position, but whatever apparently was going down caused them to warn her that night to get out asap. I'm remembering that the time she left she believed the U.S. had her back and had no idea her own president was plotting with vicious criminals to hurt her, and her shock when she learned of that phone call.
I noticed that no detailed testimony was given about what happened after she returned. A plot to ruin, and perhaps even imprison, her with charges of corruption apparently did not go forward, nor of course did murder. We were merely told that the WH informed her that Trump had lost confidence in her.
Still employed at the State Department but without assignment, career damaged but intact? Doesn't seem nearly enough to satisfy Trump's viciously vengeful nature. I kind of suspect good people were able to protect her from him, an untold story if so, at least to that degree. And at least so far.
Occursto me to wonder if the Russian hackers are trying to develop and further the uncompleted plot against her, as well as others, and thus against Democrats.
triron
(22,028 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)I dont think she knew all of this. Through her lawyer she issued a statement demanding an investigation.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)an assassination (and I believe he's probably too cowardly), I'd love, love, love that incredible evil to come out as his impeachment trial is about to begin. And in the meantime, don't you realize what it means that we have evidence that dangerous enemies were tracking our ambassador every moment?
But we're not damned trumpsters here, and no one responsible source is reporting what some here are running away with. If you want discussions where facts that "throw water" aren't allowed, there are other groups on other forums that practically specialize in that. But this is a forum for Democrats, and we don't.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)He won't lose any votes over it. I think 5th avenue was just for illustration purposes.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I can image more stunning information. That is why the WH refuses to release their e-mails, etc,
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)Well, Parnas is now trending at #6, Yovanovich at #8, and US Ambassador at #10
Word is OUT and people who cant imagine a thing like this happening (unlike us) are going, wha? What? What the living FUCK??
Hang tough, give this a minute
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%22US+Ambassador%22
US Ambassador tweets ^^^
They all 100% agree with your OP
Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)I know he won't, but I wish Obama would Tweet a couple of these stories. It would explode on Twitter, he has more followers Trump.
Kablooie
(18,645 posts)But it's so inflammatory that without rock solid, documented proof, if would only appear to be partisan hyperbole and would reflect back on Democrats.
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)Kablooie
(18,645 posts)It's concerning that they might have been considering that but underlings planning a murder to benefit Trump doesn't prove that Trump knew and approved of it. There would have to be direct evidence of Trump's involvement for it to be used against him.
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)Kablooie
(18,645 posts)Like a mob boss he always hints but never talks directly about crimes he wants committed.
That way he always has deniability if the crimes are exposed.
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)triron
(22,028 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)Just scary.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)triron
(22,028 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)No, not by any means. But the poster had written that Khashoggi was murdered because he had some how insulted trumpie. Not so. Khashoggi had been very outspoken in his criticism about how MBS had sent Saudi Arabia backwards into an ugly repressive place. By stifling dissent, jailing members of his own family, "disappearing" journalists and critics, terminating the rights of women, Khashoggi was chronicling for the world to see the damage MBS was doing to SA. The royal family had heralded the young prince as the face of the future for SA, but Khashoggi was not buying into the PR campaign. He knew smoke and mirrors when he saw it. Instead, he bravely stood up to them and told the world what he saw. Dangerous for a journalist in such a society, but Khashoggi was a man of integrity and honesty and he was not going to allow the Faud family to get away with the lie that they were making a better future for Saudis.
I respected Jamal Khashoggi as a journalist and I mourn his loss. It was a senseless act of depravity. That the US stood by (and much of the Arab world, too) and allowed this barbaric act to go unexamined is tragic and makes me fear for the future.
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)in order to get dirt on a political opponent ...Biden. I saw the Chris Hayes segment.. I hate Trump but I would never have expected this. He has to go in 20 if not before.
Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)He has no problem killing to stay in power.
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)world wide wally
(21,758 posts)Then don't allow him to babysit your country.
Johnny2X2X
(19,235 posts)Guy probably has never held a baby in his life.
KSNY
(315 posts)as well as whoever gave them their orders.