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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:30 AM Jan 2020

There's a reason for the seemingly-impenetrable GOP wall in the Impeachment

This is about the survival of the party itself, not just about Trump.

They know their ratfucking with the help of hostile foreign powers, if fully revealed, will be the end of it being a viable party for a generation or more. Each layer of this stinky-ass onion is being peeled away and it's getting away from them (hence, their abandonment of concepts like Rule-Of-Law and National Security since both were getting in the way of their nefarious plans).

After we win in 2020, there HAS to be investigations into the party itself. Pray we get HSWH (House, Senate, White House) - we're going to need it all to resolve this.

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There's a reason for the seemingly-impenetrable GOP wall in the Impeachment (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
The blue wave is building to tsunami level. pwb Jan 2020 #1
That blue wave is our Obi-Wan Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #2
Terry Kanefield did a very good thread on this topic dewsgirl Jan 2020 #3
The other option is to fess-up and resign. Exactly... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #6
Teri is excellent NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #8
She really is. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #11
They could have picked Country over party. n/t EndlessWire Jan 2020 #15
Their ideal government is the same as Trump's: A corrupt autocratic kleptocracy / mafia state dalton99a Jan 2020 #4
I like Glenn Kirschner's Idea NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #5
I do too. Even after impeachment, there should be a joint committee... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #7
We need to Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #16
GOP has nothing to lose with this dishonest effort....demographics will kill the party anyway. tableturner Jan 2020 #9
I agree. Mostly. Caliman73 Jan 2020 #22
When the election's over I don't want to hear "Let's move forwards, not backwards." backscatter712 Jan 2020 #10
Sanders is not a Registered member of the Democratic Party Captain_New_York Jan 2020 #12
Don't be obtuse. backscatter712 Jan 2020 #14
your last statement crosses 2 lines ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #18
Where do you actually go to register as a member of the Democratic Party? Nature Man Jan 2020 #21
This is why moondust Jan 2020 #13
He mentioned McCarthy I believe flamingdem Jan 2020 #17
Nunes and McCarthy. moondust Jan 2020 #19
That's right Nunes flamingdem Jan 2020 #20

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
3. Terry Kanefield did a very good thread on this topic
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jan 2020

a couple months ago. She posts so many threads, I have tried to search for it and have had no luck pulling it up again.
Essentially they have no other option.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
6. The other option is to fess-up and resign. Exactly...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jan 2020

The entire GOP and affiliates were plied with rubles for a decade, maybe more. Then, it got away from them after Trump's bullshit win. Trump's incompetent campaign team turned out to be the Achilles heel of the whole scheme.

Now, they have to defend the dope who, thru his team's incompetence, exposed them all to legal and electoral peril. Delicious!

dalton99a

(81,637 posts)
4. Their ideal government is the same as Trump's: A corrupt autocratic kleptocracy / mafia state
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jan 2020

based on the Russian model with Vladimir Putin in the role of capo di tutti capi, dividing the spoils and preventing turf wars between rival clans of an essentially criminal elite.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
5. I like Glenn Kirschner's Idea
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jan 2020

The Trump Crimes Commission - a team of prosecutors to investigate everything related to Trump crimes & corruption, which would inevitably lead back to Nunes, McConnell, Graham, Hannity and more.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
7. I do too. Even after impeachment, there should be a joint committee...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jan 2020

...something similar to the JC on the attack on Pearl Harbor. I'm sure by starting with the Trump crimes, it'll rip more of those stinky layers off and reveal how it involves individual GOP politicians, their PACs, the NRA, etc...

Turin_C3PO

(14,087 posts)
16. We need to
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jan 2020

start the Nuremberg 2.0 trials when we get control. First crime to be addressed: caging, neglecting and abusing children. Then we can get him for betraying the United States to Vladimir Putin and Russia.

tableturner

(1,685 posts)
9. GOP has nothing to lose with this dishonest effort....demographics will kill the party anyway.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

Even if voters abandon them due to this garbage, it will only effectively hurt them in the short term because in a decade, maybe sooner, it will be almost impossible for them to win national elections. They know they are going down anyway....so they are making a last ditch effort at going full-on fascist.

Caliman73

(11,752 posts)
22. I agree. Mostly.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jan 2020

They have managed to survive for decades on a cocktail of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, and heavy use of the credit card to float a "good economy".

They survive because they cheat and they have created an attitude of apathy in a large segment of the population saying that "government doesn't work". Democrats try to get government to work for the average person and protect the vulnerable, but Republicans just come in and sabotage the system. People get upset and drop out.

They have their coalition of asshats that can just manage to win elections with they cheating but you are right. It isn't sustainable in a democratic system so they are trying to destroy that system and maintain rule by the minority.

I do hope you are correct about their future though.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
10. When the election's over I don't want to hear "Let's move forwards, not backwards."
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jan 2020

I want blood. Yes, I want Republican blood.

I want the Sanders Administration (or whichever Democrat that becomes President) to prosecute every one of these treasonous scumfucks.

If there aren't consequences, they'll just go and do this shit again.

I want the GOP to be decimated, in the Roman sense. I want loooooooong ass prison terms. And not in white country-club Congressprisons. I want every right-wing choad involved in Trump's schemes to be doing hard time in maximum security.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
14. Don't be obtuse.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jan 2020

The only qualification for being a member of the Democratic Party is that you register as such when you register to vote.

Yes, Sanders is an independent in the Senate. In the POTUS race, he registered, and is running as a Democrat.

And his positions are a hell of a lot better than those you would tell me are Real Democrats™.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
21. Where do you actually go to register as a member of the Democratic Party?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jan 2020

My local county Democratic Party says there's no such thing.

moondust

(20,017 posts)
13. This is why
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jan 2020

I hoped Rachel and/or Anderson would press Lev on which members of Congress he knew were "in the loop." Maybe somebody can ask him privately.

Given all the corrupt, anti-democratic tricks they've been guilty of for years, it's not hard to imagine that perpetual foreign interference could be their planned coup de grâce to democracy in the U.S.

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