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Where, oh where, has the gravitas gone? (Space Force Edition) (Original Post) Soph0571 Jan 2020 OP
Surely they will be wearing nice hats like this one for their dress uniforms: Judi Lynn Jan 2020 #1
Excellent design... Layzeebeaver Jan 2020 #13
Yes, it would make it even easier for Trump to put his head in his ass. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #23
To paraphrase Yeats, Romantic America is dead and gone, it's with McCain in the grave. OnDoutside Jan 2020 #2
Question: what is the purpose of camouflage clothing in space? Martin Eden Jan 2020 #3
I think trump saw this and thought it was actually real... Soph0571 Jan 2020 #4
I wouldn't doubt it. Martin Eden Jan 2020 #5
Is that a SHARPIE he's outlined with? maddiemom Jan 2020 #8
Here: EX500rider Jan 2020 #21
Repurposing current uniforms for the short life of the space force? nt pazzyanne Jan 2020 #9
MF45 goes to the movies... Sancho Jan 2020 #6
Someday we will be laughing this one off bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #7
More than likely the impetus was from space weapon makers trying to make themselves richer. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #11
Actually this has been in the works for a while underpants Jan 2020 #15
Whoever will be the next POTUS; djacq Jan 2020 #10
In space, no one can hear Comrade Fatass scream at them. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2020 #12
It's SPACE FARCE... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2020 #14
Since we rely on other countries to get to the space station, TNNurse Jan 2020 #16
Space is a zero gravitas environment muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #17
I live in the county where Kennedy Space Center is. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #18
The Space Force will definitely need woodland camouflage. Zolorp Jan 2020 #19
These uniforms will be vital to hide from fellow astronauts in your space ship spanone Jan 2020 #20
Camo is NOT camo, and this is NOT to ... reACTIONary Jan 2020 #22
You are correct, the uniform is pretty standard work clothes for all of our military, personally I braddy Jan 2020 #26
+10 nt reACTIONary Jan 2020 #28
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #24
Kick dalton99a Jan 2020 #25
Back to the future. yortsed snacilbuper Jan 2020 #27
I would bet a days pay that Trumpy actually thinks a spacecraft can maneuver like a fighter plane A HERETIC I AM Jan 2020 #29

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,375 posts)
23. Yes, it would make it even easier for Trump to put his head in his ass.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jan 2020

If he can get Sen Graham to move his lips out of the way.

Martin Eden

(12,881 posts)
3. Question: what is the purpose of camouflage clothing in space?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:23 AM
Jan 2020

Answer: it panders to a nasty ludicrous man child.

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
21. Here:
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:10 PM
Jan 2020

But the new military service, overseen by the US Air Force, is not intended to put troops into orbit.

Rather, it will protect US assets such as the hundreds of satellites used for communication and surveillance.

US Air Force Secretary Barbara Barrett said the Space Force would comprise about 16,000 air force and civilian personnel


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51160547

bucolic_frolic

(43,393 posts)
7. Someday we will be laughing this one off
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jan 2020

In the meantime, was it 45's idea, or the generals who put him up to it? Worse, someone signed off on it, and it wasn't just Trump.

usaf-vet

(6,225 posts)
11. More than likely the impetus was from space weapon makers trying to make themselves richer.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:27 AM
Jan 2020

Who then got the support of the Pentagon military generals paving their way to lucrative post-military retirement jobs.
That's how the cycle works. Right?

underpants

(182,958 posts)
15. Actually this has been in the works for a while
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jan 2020

Funding began during the Obama Administration. Having some sort of a military plan for space makes sense but it just sounds so funny and coming from Trump it's downright hilarious

djacq

(1,634 posts)
10. Whoever will be the next POTUS;
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jan 2020

Please hit the reverse button on this BS.

Thank goodness I retired from the Air Force way before this nonsense.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,202 posts)
12. In space, no one can hear Comrade Fatass scream at them.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jan 2020

Recruitment from the executive branch is up 1200%.

TNNurse

(6,931 posts)
16. Since we rely on other countries to get to the space station,
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jan 2020

just how are these Space Force troops going to travel to do whatever the Hell they are supposed to do???

muriel_volestrangler

(101,392 posts)
17. Space is a zero gravitas environment
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jan 2020

unless you produce artificial gravitas. (in fond memory of Iain M.Banks 'The Culture')

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
18. I live in the county where Kennedy Space Center is.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jan 2020

I pass Patrick AFB on my way to my son's high school. We have educated adults punting hard for this to be HQ for Space Force. And doing so with straight faces in great earnestness. Sigh.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
19. The Space Force will definitely need woodland camouflage.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jan 2020

They will need it when they go to war on Pandora against the Na'Vi to take all of the Unobtainium.

reACTIONary

(5,789 posts)
22. Camo is NOT camo, and this is NOT to ...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jan 2020

... impress the POTUS PUTZUS.

Many years ago I participated in a high level review of a military space system. The review was conducted by a senior level civil servant in the pentagon procurement division. His position was the civil equivalent of a brigadier general. Everyone treated him with the deference and formal decorum due to that rank in the military.

He wore a suit and tie.

The military personnel on the review panel dressed in some sort of "dress uniform". They looked sharp, like in a parade, not a combat zone.

The military sponsor of the space system, who was not a part of the review, came by to give us a an introduction and overview of the system. She was a brigadier general. And yes, she was a she.

The Brigadier General wore combat boots and camo overalls with a few velcroed on patches.

Obviously she was not trying to evade the enemy by blending into the conference room office environment. What she was doing was conveying a message: I'm a warfighter. I take that seriously. We are engaged in a serious, literally deadly serious activity. You are to take me and what we are doing seriously and to remember that you are, if only temporarily, warfighters also.

The military is a disciplined, hierarchical and extremely mission focused organization. There is an awareness of the importance of symbolism to that ethos, and the importance of clothing to that symbolism. Camo is NOT just camo. It says something. It says I am a warfighter and I take that very seriously. And it says l expect you to also.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
26. You are correct, the uniform is pretty standard work clothes for all of our military, personally I
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jan 2020

think the Navy should go back to their old uniforms but I get the general idea and am glad that you pointed this out.

I will say that I could go the rest of my life wearing the old Army OD green work uniform from the Vietnam era, man it was practical and comfortable.

This is the only photo of it I could find, but this is nice work clothes.

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
29. I would bet a days pay that Trumpy actually thinks a spacecraft can maneuver like a fighter plane
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jan 2020

I mean, I’m betting he thinks that a space fighter “plane” can alter course like they do in Sci Fi movies.

I just have a feeling that’s how childish his understanding is.

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