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Ron Wyden Shocking memo, Saudi government helping fugitives flee US justice system (Original Post) dewsgirl Jan 2020 OP
Curious. Had not heard of many Saudis committing major crimes and escaping. dhol82 Jan 2020 #1
Usually, young Saudi men on student visas. Reader Rabbit Jan 2020 #3
Interesting. dhol82 Jan 2020 #4
And how curious that Saudis can do this but anyone from Central America is vilified. dhol82 Jan 2020 #6
As Rachel's book said: "all roads lead to oil." Duppers Jan 2020 #17
How about all the planes full of Saudis DENVERPOPS Jan 2020 #14
The Great Escape Kid Berwyn Jan 2020 #19
Thank you KB DENVERPOPS Jan 2020 #20
with t-rump's blessing . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #2
Of course. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #5
THIS!!! bluestarone Jan 2020 #8
Hasn't this been happening under a few previous administrations? erronis Jan 2020 #13
We have surrendered. Thunderbeast Jan 2020 #7
That Is Exactly What's Been Happening Me. Jan 2020 #9
Will the Saudis have an opportunity to help Trump flee justice? Martin Eden Jan 2020 #10
I wonder if this has anything to do with all the Saudi medevac flights? CaptainTruth Jan 2020 #11
Saudi terrorist attack on the Pensacola Naval Base. JAD Jan 2020 #12
because they didn't participate in the attack stopdiggin Jan 2020 #16
I remember the scramble to get the Bin Ladens out of the country after 9/11 elias7 Jan 2020 #15
This sounds right up Fox News' alley... if they were Latino. NCLefty Jan 2020 #18

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
1. Curious. Had not heard of many Saudis committing major crimes and escaping.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jan 2020

Anybody know what this is about?

Reader Rabbit

(2,624 posts)
3. Usually, young Saudi men on student visas.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jan 2020

If they commit a crime and are arrested, they are spirited out of the U.S. once they are out on bail.

The Oregonian did a big article on it:

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/02/saudi-students-escaping-us-justice-what-we-know-and-dont-know.html

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
6. And how curious that Saudis can do this but anyone from Central America is vilified.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020

Right wing love of oil at its best!

DENVERPOPS

(8,866 posts)
14. How about all the planes full of Saudis
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

That left the u.s.the days after 9/11....remember those ???

Kid Berwyn

(15,015 posts)
19. The Great Escape
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 09:58 AM
Jan 2020

Craig Unger, OpEd New York Times, 2004

Excerpt...

In addition, new evidence shows that the evacuation involved more than the departure of 142 Saudis on six charter flights that the commission is investigating. According to newly released documents, 160 Saudis left the United States on 55 flights immediately after 9/11 -- making a total of about 300 people who left with the apparent approval of the Bush administration, far more than has been reported before. The records were released by the Department of Homeland Security in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative, nonpartisan watchdog group in Washington.

The vast majority of the newly disclosed flights were commercial airline flights, not charters, often carrying just two or three Saudi passengers. They originated from more than 20 cities, including Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Detroit and Houston. One Saudi Arabian Airlines flight left Kennedy Airport on Sept. 13 with 46 Saudis. The next day, another Saudi Arabian Airlines flight left with 13 Saudis.

The panel has indicated that it has yet to find any evidence that the F.B.I. checked the manifests of departing flights against its terror watch list. The departures of additional Saudis raise more questions for the panel. Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar, told The Hill newspaper recently that he took full responsibility for approving some flights. But we don't know if other Bush administration officials participated in the decision.

Continues...

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/01/opinion/the-great-escape.html

DENVERPOPS

(8,866 posts)
20. Thank you KB
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jan 2020

For the most recent info. All the info being found so nicely fits into what many of os concluded from day one of 9/11.......

erronis

(15,393 posts)
13. Hasn't this been happening under a few previous administrations?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jan 2020

I know the Saudis escaped the US right after they helped perpetrate 9/11. That would be in the Cheney regime.

But hasn't this also happened before and after 9/11? In other administrations?

Thunderbeast

(3,425 posts)
7. We have surrendered.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jan 2020

This is the result of building an economy based on the extraction of dinosaur fuel under sand far away. We have surrendered our sovereignty to this addiction.

This is the tragic story of my neighbor, Fallon Smart, and the efforts put forth by the Saudi royal family to protect their entitled princes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/02/state-department-says-it-wont-intervene-after-manslaughter-suspect-returns-to-saudi-arabia.html%3foutputType=amp

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. That Is Exactly What's Been Happening
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jan 2020

This government is not our ally. Don't forget how Saudis were spirited out of the country on 911.

Martin Eden

(12,881 posts)
10. Will the Saudis have an opportunity to help Trump flee justice?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jan 2020

They probably wouldn't have any use for this POtuS after he was no longer in a position to shield the Saudi royals from assasinating journalists.

CaptainTruth

(6,611 posts)
11. I wonder if this has anything to do with all the Saudi medevac flights?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020

Seems like there are a few Saudi medevac flights (planes registered to the Saudi military) in/out of US airports every month & I've never seen any explanation.

JAD

(187 posts)
12. Saudi terrorist attack on the Pensacola Naval Base.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:56 PM
Jan 2020

The Pensacola shooting was deemed an act of terrorism. The US is kicking out at least 20 Saudi military students as a result of the terrorist attack. Why aren't we prosecuting them for terrorism?

stopdiggin

(11,395 posts)
16. because they didn't participate in the attack
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 12:27 AM
Jan 2020

and were determined to not be engaged in terroristic activities. (other unethical and illegal activities)

You can argue that determination -- but that is the answer to your question.

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