to take out Democrats turn to outright criminal activity, not just dishonest agitation. To the point that I've come to almost expect it as a sign of the times.

The massive corruption the RW and Russia have instilled in the RW and radical fringes of many nations seems to have erased boundaries and create entanglements too many are happy to walk into...

Greenwald is not deserving of my time, frankly, but in the big picture, I don't want anyone to be inappropriately prosecuted, here or elsewhere. I have no faith in Brazil's current government, so Greenwald will get benefit-of-the doubt-- from me, at least.

Bolsonaro is a fascist.

I'm ignoring them at this point (not "on ignore", just ignoring their posts).

Whatever Glenn Greenwald may be, Balsonaro is a fucking fascist clown and anyone here taking his goddamned side should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

...getting railroaded here. Even among his biggest detractors on Twitter, it's almost universally being condemned.

It is mind-boggling, really.

Thank you

Link to tweet

He reaps what he's sowed.

Not a fan of Brazil's leader but I find it hard to feel sad for Greenwald.

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even closer to overt fascism than we are.

Liberals don't cheer for fascist fuckery, regardless of who is getting fucked.

This is like "First they came..." except instead of doing nothing, it's "and I helped them do it".

Like putin and support actual liberals like obama and clinton.

Greenwald and his anti-liberal alliance worked very hard to defeat liberalism around the world. And now he's a victim of his success.

I had a feeling they were coming for Greenwald and I hope he finds a way to stay safe. They warned him and now I'm afraid it may be too late for him to get out of Brazil.

Glenn Greewald is an ass but what Bolsonaro is doing is way bad.

blind them to how awful this is in terms of press freedom and the threat posed by authoritarian governments.

He gleefully spread Russian propaganda to help enable the election of fascist authoritarians in the United States and around the globe.

I'm supposed to feel sorry for him now that one of those fascists is behaving so "fascistly".

That would be like giving one fuck about Hannity or Limbaugh getting arrested by Barr.

Maybe this is what it takes to wake up our media.

Thus, I give it a "meh" because it's Brazil, I have no say, and I don't a shit what happens to Greenwald.

This is an assault on all the press, including those you like.

Add to that the fact that it's Greenwald and , MEH.

I'VE BEEN TELLING Y'ALL FOR GOING ON SIX YEARS THAT GLENNBO WAS A FRAUD!

And now the chickens have come home to roost...

There are a couple dozen DUers who should be groveling at my feet in apology, but I won't name them.

I just want it to be clear *that's* what you're cheering on.

Disturbing but not surprising.

You want to accuse me of something, accuse me.

Strange that so many of y'all never wanted to play in my Greenwald threads but now you come out of nowhere pretending you have smoke for me? Bring it.

BEEN TELLING US FOR GOING ON SIX YEARS?

You don't just drop that in a post if you aren't willing to back it up

That's because I find it disturbing but not surprising. There's nothing to back up.


Again, why would anybody be surprised? You have been raging about this guy for years.

And nevermind the fact that nobody in all that time has refuted me so I must have been on the right track, I guess?

Would it be out of line for me to ask now why DUers are bending over backwards to defend a Trumper and a propagandist masquerading as a journalist? Did people forget already how many anti-Hillary smear pieces were in the Intercept in 2016? At one time they were damn near daily. Did everyone forget the smears of Obama and all our other beloved Dems? Has nobody been paying attention to how vehemently Glenn has been defending Trump in Kremlingate??

This mook has openly and actively sabotaged Dem candidates for over a decade... Is he what you consider an ally? If so, why??

Pretty obtuse.

Which is intellectually and ethically lazy regardless of whether or not it's done to someone you don't like...

Like I said, I've been doing this a long-assed time so folks had better bring their A-games with receipts if they want to take a run at me...

They're in the archives so feel free to search for them. But let me give you a brief summary:

1. Glenn isn't a "journalist"

2. Wannabe journalists engaging in or encouraging others to commit crime for the sake of a "story" are not protected by the law.

3. Glenn has smugly been looking down on us ever since Trump got in (who Glenn shilled for, never forget) as some kind of penance for daring to nominate Hillary Clinton (who Glenn publicly said as early as 2014 that he would do everything in his power to stop).

4. Since Glenn celebrated fascism crashing down on America like a biblical plague, it's only karma that the same kind of bullying fascist strongman come to infest his little ivory tower leftist heaven.

5. KremlinGate is the biggest U.S. political scandal in our lifetimes, and Greenwald (who made his Pulitzer-winning fame on the basis of transparency and investigative reporting) spent the first three years continually denying it ever happened, and since then he's been trying to subvert Mueller, the impeachment, and pretty much everything the #Resistance has tried to accomplish... Oh, but don't ever accuse him of supporting Trump

6. Car Wash is the biggest Brazilian scandal in the history of forever, and Glenn "Mr. Transparency" Fucking Greenwald has been actively trying to sabotage the entire investigation for the sole purpose of trying to retroactively exonerate his hero Lula... And when Dilma got removed from office Greenwald had the unmitigated gall to scream "WASHINGTON-BACKED COUP!!" with absolutely ZERO fucking evidence whatsoever -- Oh, but no amount of evidence could ever convince him that Trump committed any crimes whatsoever... So very fearless and adversarial... Glenn ought to have his Pulitzer yanked

7. Then there's Russia, Syria, China, Ukraine, Iran, the German thing, the New Zealand thing, the list goes on. Believe me when I tell you I've got SIX fucking years of receipts bookmarked and most of which I've posted here... So I suggest you dive into the archives before pointing the finger at me of all people.

Look upthread, an awful lot of people disagree with your assessment.

So you're making a personal attack on my character because either you know you don't have any ammo to argue me, OR you're lashing out because you know I've been vindicated after all these years and oh God it's just burning you up...

So which is it?

"...cheering an authoritarian government who's infringing on the rights of journalists..."

And as a former journalist I take umbrage at that, my man... I'm also disappointed (and not surprised) that you completely ignored my points, but not I'm not offended... I've been playing this game for a long, long time.

That's what you were doing.

I see your umbrage and raise you a .

Dress it up however you like but at the end of the day, hacking isn't journalism.

Unless you're one of those "The ends justify the means as long as it's against someone I don't like" -types...

eom

no sympathy

I know that he is somebody you allot some kind of authenticity to (as opposed to "admire" or "look up to&quot , and I'll admit that my not doing so is based on ignorance (I've only read snippets of a couple of his articles) and partisanship since he gigs my Dems as often as the Repukes. If he's all about freedom of the press and access to information, fine. I didn't like how SNOWDEN has ended up even if he exposed infractions of our freedoms, therefore, didn't like GREENWALD's role with him.

But my purpose here is to acknowledge your fellow's being hounded by whoever the despot is.

and around the world, it bites you in the ass.

Maybe "her emails" and the risotto recipe weren't as important as the rise of right-wing fascism around the globe.

I hope Glenn Greenwald gets a thorough and fair trial with all evidence presented. All evidence.

on DU? SMH.

Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden were propped up as heros. They provided ammunition for trolls to attack Obama and Democrats non-stop. FWIW, their motives were known to those of us who were paying attention.

That being said, Greenwald, like anyone else, deserves due process and I wish him luck. I'm sure he has the funds and resources necessary to defend himself (or flee again if it comes to that).

So does Glenn Greenwald.

Dictators start by knocking out the helpless and unpopular first. They gather support and establish a precedent that way.

because sometime next it will be you.


Fascism advances by attacking the weakest, the least popular, the easiest targets first, like fish in a barrel, while the other fish cheer "Good, I hated that guy anyway."

(She says while pointing to the big, fat red line that's always been there and grabbing a broom to sweep off the dirt the Greenwalds and Barrs have been kicking over to hide it.)