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calimary

(81,540 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:16 PM Jan 2020

Alert for those calling Mitch McConnell but NOT Kentucky residents:

I just did. They ask for zip code. I looked up some intel and saw that the University of Louisville was in 40208. The staffer asked for my zip code. I gave that one. Then he said “d’ya happen to know what county that is?” I didn’t. So I said I just moved here and just starting to learn my way around.

BUT WHAT THAT TELLS ME:
They’re only interested in their own state callers. So I bet my message “Fair, NOT Fixed, NOT Fake, NOT Phony” was going to be totally disregarded.

SO IF YOU WANT TO CALL and you’re not from their state:
Do a little research beforehand.
If you have family or friends in that district, use THEIR zip code. If you can look up their address first, check what county it’s in. They just might ask.

They’re getting smart. We need to be smarter.

I also said “I don’t want to give my address because I don’t want to get any mail from him since I disagree with him.”

Response: “yer not gonna get any mail. Do you happen to know what county that is?” That when I said I “just moved there and don’t know my way around yet.”

Just so you know. BE PREPARED.

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Alert for those calling Mitch McConnell but NOT Kentucky residents: (Original Post) calimary Jan 2020 OP
If he isn't voted out in November 2naSalit Jan 2020 #1
WILL become? maxsolomon Jan 2020 #5
I was trying to 2naSalit Jan 2020 #10
The optimum strategy Big Blue Marble Jan 2020 #2
What does that accomplish? fescuerescue Jan 2020 #12
Pick any old address TheCowsCameHome Jan 2020 #3
His office is not taking any calls now. Casandia Jan 2020 #4
I called one of the district offices. They're picking up there. calimary Jan 2020 #6
Louisville is really comprised of 3 counties... SKKY Jan 2020 #7
City/county merged years ago. Louisville is Jefferson co Roland99 Jan 2020 #11
great tip. Go to Zillow pick a town and use the address of an available apartment or empty house for TeamPooka Jan 2020 #8
He is the leader of the Senate. A national leader. Senators represent all states... liberalla Jan 2020 #9
Excellent point! calimary Jan 2020 #13
Feel free to add the following question as a statement before hanging up: WyattKansas Jan 2020 #14
Generally they've only ever wanted to hear from people from their state RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #15
Oooh wait, google some rural shitbird area RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #16
Are you advocating people lie about where they live? fallout87 Jan 2020 #17
I'm suggesting being as devious as the enemy is. calimary Jan 2020 #18

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
5. WILL become?
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jan 2020

He's been in the Senate since 19 fucking 85. 6 terms. 35 years.

RAND PAUL is the other Senator.

They've got a Dem Governor now, so there's some reason to hope. Some.

Big Blue Marble

(5,155 posts)
2. The optimum strategy
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jan 2020

is to tell the staffer that you are from out of state but you just donated to their opponent. (Amy McGraft)
And that you will continue to donate until November.

The key is dollars; McConnell needs to know that we will outspend them.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
12. What does that accomplish?
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jan 2020

Other than giving up a heads up to McConnell that he needs to double down on fund raising too?

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
3. Pick any old address
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jan 2020

Go to Zillow or some site like that and find a county and zip.

Most every town has a Pleasant or Main St. Pick a random number and add it to the front.

Beat these bums at their own game.

Casandia

(660 posts)
4. His office is not taking any calls now.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

When I called, the call goes right to a recorded message, and you cannot leave a message. Hmmmm....interesting

calimary

(81,540 posts)
6. I called one of the district offices. They're picking up there.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

Found that to be true in many cases.

But I started by calling his Washington DC office. And when I did, I got that same recording. There was no way to leave a message.

So that, in turn, could mean

A) they don’t want any calls, period;

B) they’re already too inundated with phone calls and turned things off (or maybe the system broke down?);

C) they’re getting too many calls from people disagreeing or complaining about what ol’ Moscow is doing and they don’t want to hear more or allow the count of those calls to keep rising.

SKKY

(11,827 posts)
7. Louisville is really comprised of 3 counties...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

Jefferson, Bullitt, and Oldham Counties. Louisville proper is Jefferson.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
11. City/county merged years ago. Louisville is Jefferson co
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jan 2020

The others are part of the metro area but not the city

Shelby also borders Jefferson

TeamPooka

(24,273 posts)
8. great tip. Go to Zillow pick a town and use the address of an available apartment or empty house for
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jan 2020

sale

liberalla

(9,269 posts)
9. He is the leader of the Senate. A national leader. Senators represent all states...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jan 2020

He should be responsive to all calls from all states. He's more than just the senator from Kentucky.

He should listen to everyone's call/ opinion!





WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
14. Feel free to add the following question as a statement before hanging up:
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jan 2020

< And why am I seeing Russian intelligence documents dumped all over the internet listing Mitch McConnell as a paid asset? >
Then quickly hang up.

Oh come on... Just for shits and giggles.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
15. Generally they've only ever wanted to hear from people from their state
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jan 2020

A lot of them do the same even if you email them using the forms on their website.

I've always heard if it's an out of state area code they won't answer.

calimary

(81,540 posts)
18. I'm suggesting being as devious as the enemy is.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jan 2020

And true enough. I don't live in Kentucky. And I didn't "just move there." I lied.

But I wanted my comment to count and carry weight. I wanted to disrupt a little bit. I wanted to do my part to destabilize the enemy. And since their side doesn't mind putting their thumb on the scale to rig the game, skew the results, break the rules, color outside the lines, and otherwise manipulate conditions to win or to screw with our side, then why can't I do that back at them? Why shouldn't I?

And sometimes, there's the matter of a level playing field. Which we DO NOT have. I came to the realization awhile ago that the opposition probably will never be willing to play by the rules. They'll always be interested in how they can get around the rules to do what they want. I remember in 2007, watching Monica Goodling admit under oath "I crossed the line" when investigators questioned what she'd been up to while working for dubya's attorney general Alberto Gonzales. She described how her priority, once she'd hired on, was to figure out "how to get around" the rules, laws, and conventions. And that was back toward the end of bush/cheney. That kind of crap has gone on WAY longer than anyone among us can remember. That side of the aisle doesn't want to have to follow rules or stay within the guardrails if it means they can't get what they want - which is almost always ill-gotten gain.

www.newsweek.com › bushs-monica-problem-gonzales-mess-101767
Bush's Monica Problem: The Gonzales Mess - Newsweek

And they're ALWAYS gonna do that, dammit! I realized at one point that, SINCE they're always gonna play that way, and I want a level playing field, maybe the only thing to do is reverse-tilt that playing field, toward the way I wanted. Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it. And I apologize, especially to those, like you, fallout87, who are far more noble, pure of heart, and clean-of-conscience than I am. This stuff ain't pretty. But neither is politics. And I can be just as machiavellian as the next guy. At least for now. At least toward republi-CONS. Hey, as soon as they start fighting fair - and stop the gerrymandering and the many different kinds of voter suppression and other nasty sneaky-ass tricks that elbow out (and thereby silence) anyone they suspect will vote against them - I'll be VERY glad to fight fair again, too.

There is one further point I want to underscore here (repetition is good!). And it comes in the form of several questions. Because there are numerous ways to confront, and preferably confound, the opposition:

Have you lived in another state, earlier in your life? Or another congressional district?

Still have friends or relatives there? Roommates/ex-roommates? Ex-love interests? School mates? People marry, divorce, change jobs, retire, go back to school, move around - how many people do you know who live elsewhere now, themselves?

Are you still in touch? Ever go visit them? Hang out? Stay for a week or weekend? Vacation there or go to family or class reunions or trips for the holidays or summer? If so, when you're there, you're probably out 'n' about, there, going visiting, out to restaurants, the movies, sporting events, tourist attractions or kiddie palaces. Maybe you run errands or shop at the local supermarket, run to the drug store, go sightseeing, get your gas tank filled? You're using their roads and their general infrastructure there. Your shopping and spending supports the local economy and the people working who serve you, help you, and staff the cash registers. You're helping the local tax base and the business community. Which means YOU have a STAKE in that community, however brief and temporary. And if you have friends or loved ones there, you REALLY have a stake in that area.

In my opinion, that certainly gives you a claim to weigh in. ESPECIALLY on behalf of those folks you care about, who live there. So why shouldn't you call in?

I once called Susan Collins' office in Maine. I lived in California. I've never been to Maine, but my college-age grand-niece still does, and she's basically alone now since her mom (my niece) recently died and her divorced dad lives on the other side of the country. I still care about her and worry over her, even though we've only met via letters and the phone but never in person. I called Collins' office about some issue, and I identified myself as not living there but caring about someone who does. The staffer was rude and confrontational. Barked at me. "And WHAT does this have to do with the STATE of MAINE???" I decided - "okay for YOU, dude." You and yours are gonna hear from me whether you want to or not. And I've never let up since. I'm NO angel!

I've also called out of state as a campaign donor. Now former-Senator Heidi Heitkamp comes to mind, who, the morning after the Sandy Hook shooting was on "Good Morning America" insisting she was going to do nothing about stopping the spread of assault weapons. I was not happy that someone I'd helped to elect was taking that position - especially after that horrible shooting. I got shit for that from the staffer who took the call. He didn't want to listen to me and did want to give me a hard time. And I pointed out that - "yes, I know I don't live in North Dakota, but when she was running for the Senate, she was VERY happy to take MY CALIFORNIA MONEY that I donated to her campaign!" Btw - that shut him up. He didn't have a comeback for that.

I live for results like that.

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