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****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 2**** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
Sekulo done and Cippycup Cipillone back again BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #1
Oh CRAP! elleng Jan 2020 #3
How many lies so far? Walleye Jan 2020 #9
all of them. he's not rebutting Schiff; just making a speech Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #17
Cipollone is one of those crazy Barr Catholics I believe. Worked for Barr too dem4decades Jan 2020 #41
Sippy wants a do-over C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #2
Am guessing GYMSUIT handed him some talking points to read BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #6
sounds like Jacketoff, just at lower volume and speed Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #20
That will work out as well as NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #8
When did Trump release and declassify the phone calls? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #4
Glad you said that. All we got is Barr abridged version Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #44
It's very difficult for him to hear says Cipollone Mossfern Jan 2020 #5
These are not actual legal arguments from the defense blogslut Jan 2020 #7
Nope. They're attacking the opposition and playing to the haters in the public. nolabear Jan 2020 #11
Agree. It's mostly third-rate recycled Fox news propaganda. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #12
But they were down in that horrible basement and kept all rethugs out! Peregrine Took Jan 2020 #10
Even though ALL the members of the committees BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #14
EXACTLY. ancianita Jan 2020 #48
What Constitional rights Mossfern Jan 2020 #13
Again, their defense is Wednesdays Jan 2020 #15
and I remember Devin Nunes NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #19
You left out lie, just lie your ass off. SamKnause Jan 2020 #23
They are just like 45. Make an enemy for the minions. Attack him/her. Bully bully bully. nolabear Jan 2020 #16
Well, Cippy is just gonna Gish gallop with one lie after another Mersky Jan 2020 #18
lied about the basement and about witnesses, too Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #29
Yep, I heard multiple. Mersky Jan 2020 #37
He's adlibbing. He was caught off guard. No notes. lamp_shade Jan 2020 #21
So far Mossfern Jan 2020 #22
Don't bet on it. Smearing is all they've got. nolabear Jan 2020 #25
The more he lies Walleye Jan 2020 #27
I hope somebody rebuts these stupid, personal attacks. It's disgusting. nolabear Jan 2020 #24
What? Mossfern Jan 2020 #26
Da fuq? BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #28
wildly accuses Dems of trying to steal the election ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #33
Good grief, we'd be facing anarchy if the way tRump has been protected Mersky Jan 2020 #30
Pitiful. H2O Man Jan 2020 #31
OMG the jackass is finally done. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #32
+1, they're doing the FAUX News defense ... possibly ratings to high for them to get away with this uponit7771 Jan 2020 #55
Schumer has offered an amendment to the Rules BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #34
Cipollone wants the Senate to think the House wants them to "make up for" what the House didn't do. ancianita Jan 2020 #35
This is going to be a total shitshow of a farce lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #36
so far, only Schiff has addressed the Articles and facts Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #42
And because we can't see the seating, Mersky Jan 2020 #54
watching on PBS dweller Jan 2020 #63
Not sure. Mersky Jan 2020 #66
Apparently it's outrageous to have an impeachment during an election year. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #38
It Outrageous For Anything To Happen In An Election Year. jayfish Jan 2020 #43
But not an assassination and tweets about "Obama wanting to start a war". ancianita Jan 2020 #46
Schumer's amendment is requesting the subpoena of documents/records BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #39
TY backtoblue Jan 2020 #50
The clerk is reading out everything they want BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #51
Let's stop calling it a trial. It is not a trial. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #40
Shit show works for me. SamKnause Jan 2020 #45
+1, if Red Don is not removed then we shouldn't call 2020 an election year either. Pelosi should uponit7771 Jan 2020 #57
Too soon. Democratic senators have an absolute duty to participate Hortensis Jan 2020 #67
None of that prevents it from being called something other than a trial. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #69
Sure, it's already called a Democratic witch hunt. Hortensis Jan 2020 #71
That's the RW framing BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #74
YES, that is what the RW is calling it. That's the point. Hortensis Jan 2020 #79
Sadly Fix (Fox) and Limbah are compounding these savvy lawyers' lies nt live love laugh Jan 2020 #47
As long as it stays in the echo chamber. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #59
Smart move having all the requests read out loud. SamKnause Jan 2020 #49
of course the Senate won't subpoena ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #52
****15 MINUTE RECESS**** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #53
good time to THANK YOU for these threads and stream links Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #56
Agreed!! luvs2sing Jan 2020 #58
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #60
just able to tune in now IcyPeas Jan 2020 #64
Only thing keeping me from throwing something at the TV BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #65
Thank you, BumRushDaShow! gademocrat7 Jan 2020 #61
Sen. Hirono on MSNBC. elleng Jan 2020 #62
details ? dweller Jan 2020 #68
Procedural matters 'pending,' as we see re: changes in mcconnell's plans. elleng Jan 2020 #70
As I was refilling my humdifiers, CSPAN2 had a tweet up BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #76
****BACK IN SESSION**** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #72
DEBATE of Schumer's Amendment to the Rules - Schiff up first BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #73
Schiff Kills it again -- Cipollone and Sekulow never addressed the Senate resolution! ancianita Jan 2020 #75
Schiff is up and responding to pResident's lawyers not Mersky Jan 2020 #77
Schiff is destroying them malaise Jan 2020 #83
He is sooooo good. Mersky Jan 2020 #88
YESSSSS!!!! SCHIFF!!! The WH lawyers have been arguing BOTH SIDES BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #78
Schiff Kills it! Bolton wants to come but will you let him!You can't be impartial & not want Bolton! ancianita Jan 2020 #81
"They've never claimed executive privilege." Mersky Jan 2020 #80
Schiff - they had go go out and find someone because "No reputable Const. lawyer will do that" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #82
Make them eat their lies. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #84
"Do you want to ask Bolton why it was a drug deal?!" Mersky Jan 2020 #85
+1 ancianita Jan 2020 #87
Adam kills it again! Outing Cipollone's LIE about the SCIF!! ancianita Jan 2020 #86
Ass-Backwards! Yaaaaas!! nolabear Jan 2020 #89
OK, I'm just going to come and say it: Karma13612 Jan 2020 #90
If you buy the GOP's case you have Kool-Aid poisoning. nolabear Jan 2020 #91
Schiff should be in the Senate BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #92
Do you mean Rep. Schiff? meow2u3 Jan 2020 #95
Yes I fixed it - was trying to start the new thread right when I was posting that BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #97
Schiff yielding time to Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #93
****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 3**** UP BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #94
Shiff referring to pResident's lawyers attacking the prosecutors... Mersky Jan 2020 #96

Mossfern

(2,570 posts)
5. It's very difficult for him to hear says Cipollone
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jan 2020

More lying - amazing.

Do you think that Trump would have come to the House depositions?

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
11. Nope. They're attacking the opposition and playing to the haters in the public.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jan 2020

You can hear the FOX computers typing away at their spin on it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
14. Even though ALL the members of the committees
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

including 100+ GOP members, WERE allowed in yet they refused to go and then "staged" a circus side show on the steps going to the room... .

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
19. and I remember Devin Nunes
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020

saying that about Democrats back in December - huge projection on his part.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
23. You left out lie, just lie your ass off.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jan 2020

Show no morals or respect for anything.

Just lie.

They should be fined for intentionally lying.

I have watched all the hearings.

Lies are all they have or ever had.

They are vile.

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
16. They are just like 45. Make an enemy for the minions. Attack him/her. Bully bully bully.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jan 2020

The Senators in that chamber have no illusions about any of this. This is for the 2020 voter because they know he'll get off.

I could scream.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
18. Well, Cippy is just gonna Gish gallop with one lie after another
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020

Seems like he’s violating his lawyerly ethics pledge, and Bar license on national tv.

He rather alarmingly lied about the nature of the less-than-perfect phone call. That’s just one... and it’s a big one.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
37. Yep, I heard multiple.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jan 2020

Are some of the standard lies we’ve already heard, just repackaged that cause the argumentation to divert away from the real facts, and it is exhausting.

Mossfern

(2,570 posts)
26. What?
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

The House is afraid to make their case?
He's just throwing out words.

It's a "partisan impeachment" because of Mitch.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
30. Good grief, we'd be facing anarchy if the way tRump has been protected
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

By politicians and appointees carried over to courts regular Americans must use. There would be no justice for everyday folks harmed by bribery and extortion.

ancianita

(36,160 posts)
35. Cipollone wants the Senate to think the House wants them to "make up for" what the House didn't do.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

The Bigass Schiff Attack.

Words like "concocting" "lock the president out," AND "will Mr Schiff give documents?!" "we're still waiting for whistleblower documents!" "YOU"RE on trial, Senate! "think about it!" "its's common sense"


"if i showed up in court... my case is overwhelming, i need more evidence ... I'd be thrown out and that's what should happen here...
what are the stakes -- an election!" "A partisan impeachment they've delivered to you to support their election" "They're here to steal TWO elections -- remove Trump from the ballot! -- they just don't have the nerve to tell you that!"

"My point: it's long past time that we start this and end it so we can go have an election!"

Fuck that whiny slime Cshipollone.



lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
36. This is going to be a total shitshow of a farce
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jan 2020

I have no hope that any Repukes will actually listen to this.

And Moscow Mitch is doing his best to make sure nobody else does either.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
54. And because we can't see the seating,
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jan 2020

We cannot see what they’re doing, or who is in the chamber. It is appalling.

dweller

(23,682 posts)
63. watching on PBS
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jan 2020

and they were saying it was interesting to see the looks on senators faces, some looking sleepy, Klobuchar intent, Romney taking notes.. how are they seeing this


✌🏼

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
66. Not sure.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jan 2020

I think they must have runners going in and out with written notes, because I believe it’s the case that electronic devices aren’t allowed-in. Is arcane and stupid.

✌️

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
38. Apparently it's outrageous to have an impeachment during an election year.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jan 2020

Where have I heard that argument before...

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
39. Schumer's amendment is requesting the subpoena of documents/records
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jan 2020

from McGahn, and anything related to the calls to Ukraine, etc.

Basically requesting ALL the documents that the House was unable to get.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
45. Shit show works for me.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

Those evil liars have me wound up.

They should be fined for intentionally lying.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
57. +1, if Red Don is not removed then we shouldn't call 2020 an election year either. Pelosi should
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jan 2020

... go nuclear and demand a fair trial or she wont certify the election.

Cut the arm off of Thanos right now, there wont be a second chance if he snaps his fingers.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
67. Too soon. Democratic senators have an absolute duty to participate
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

in a senate trial. Remember, we've also put the Republicans on trial. Let them hang themselves.
When and if our Democratic senators give up and announce the Republicans broke their solemn oaths and did not allow the senate to perform its constitutional duty, then I will.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
71. Sure, it's already called a Democratic witch hunt.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:18 PM
Jan 2020

Imo, that's an argument for continuing to call it the senate impeachment trial, but, hey, we can go to town. The standard here is mostly just don't bash Democrats.

BannonsLiver

(16,508 posts)
74. That's the RW framing
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jan 2020

I don’t know anyone who is even remotely objective calling it that. It’s not a trial. We’ll agree to disagree.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
79. YES, that is what the RW is calling it. That's the point.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jan 2020

Their behavior in trashing this solemn proceeding is no template for me to follow. As our party leaders keep trying to impress.

You've taken offense, and I didn't mean that because I agree the Repubs aren't allowing a genuine trial. We knew they wouldn't. Just commenting on what we're trying to do here.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
49. Smart move having all the requests read out loud.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jan 2020

Just shows how deep of a shit pile the truth is buried under.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,484 posts)
52. of course the Senate won't subpoena ...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

If the Senate issued the subpoena Schumer calls for, the response by the WH would PROVE Article 2.

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
76. As I was refilling my humdifiers, CSPAN2 had a tweet up
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jan 2020

about Collins' "concern" with Turtle's last minute changes to drop down to 2 days/24 hours and so Turtle apparently revised it again to go back to 3 days.

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
78. YESSSSS!!!! SCHIFF!!! The WH lawyers have been arguing BOTH SIDES
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jan 2020

"You can't go to court but then you have to go to court!!"

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
80. "They've never claimed executive privilege."
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jan 2020

Yes. Thank you, Adam Schiff!



He went on, my paraphrasing: Why? Because tRump would have to reveal his evidence of guilt!

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
82. Schiff - they had go go out and find someone because "No reputable Const. lawyer will do that"
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

(in reference to Dershowitz )

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
90. OK, I'm just going to come and say it:
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jan 2020

I ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Rep Adam Schiff.

Speaking the truth with such dignity and passion is just so cool!

BumRushDaShow

(129,662 posts)
97. Yes I fixed it - was trying to start the new thread right when I was posting that
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jan 2020


New thread is up.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
96. Shiff referring to pResident's lawyers attacking the prosecutors...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jan 2020

They don’t want to about the pResident’s guilt.

And further calls them on their “ass backwards” no evidence and witnesses for the trial.

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