Then we end up with egg on our face

past some of the senators, to put it out there to add to the chaos.

I wonder who else? Collins? Alexander? Maybe Pat Roberts since he's retiring? Tillis?

It just may be as likely as not. I'll err on the side of optimism; it can't hurt.

Hear ya....but, my cynical side acknowledges Republicans are a criminal breed.

Ain't buying that. They're cowards through and through.

I wasted a little time calling Cruz and Cornyn but have considered calling Lamar Alexander who was once my governor

my well of hope is empty today.

This sounds nice, but I'm not buying it. My guess is that someone's putting this out there as a way to stop them damn phone calls.

I would not doubt that for a minute.

Haven't heard it in forever.

so if mcturtle isn't barreling everything he wants through, then it must be because at least 4 republican senators objected.

now, they might be objecting only long enough to extract some political compensation, that's all the usual washington game....

to subpoena people and stuff from the WH. So no "break" at this point.

Schumer submitted another to do the same regarding the State Department.

For at least 30-40 Senators of both parties, maintaining the dignity of their "most exclusive club on Earth" is paramount. And they know that Trump has decided subpoenas don't apply to him, so they run the risk that the WH will diss the Senate as they did the House and reveal them to be equally impotent in the matter of enforcement. There are probably more than a few Dems who would have voted to table that one if it had any chance of passing.

On the other hand, Mitch caved on the lightning dead-of-night schedule and introducing House evidence without even any public prodding. The abysmal performance of the WH defense can't be helping. The real test is when they get around to considering witnesses and documents that weren't part of the House evidence. I can believe there are more than 4 who have told Mitch they can't go home and expect re-election if it doesn't at least look like a real trial as compared to Clinton's.

(which was supposedly a stipulation by 4 of the most vulnerable Senators) was to wait until AFTER all the opening statements before allowing motions to request the Senate do subpoenas. So it was agreed that if Schumer presented these Amendments now (at the beginning) then they would table each one down the line.

However by doing them anyway, this puts the Democrats' case out there at the beginning knowing that people may be tuning in for the 1st day (or two) and may drop out later...

How'd ya like to atone for your bullshit service as the National Chairman of the RNC?

Publicly call out the Senators that you think will break ranks with McConnell. Put their damn feet to the fire!

Otherwise, shut up and sit down. You're not contributing a damn thing except to get your name in the media. And frankly, you're boring.

Voted against getting Ukraine documents from White House.

Until then, the hopium dealers can STFU.

Broadcast people have to keep the drama going.

The cowards and hypocrites will do as turtle tells them. If one or two get permission to break on a single vote, it will be so they can thump their chests back in their states. We can't be chastised anymore for saying that republican lawmakers are lying shits.

(Believe it when I see it.)

me look that up.

...so Google wouldn't be able to even guess.

But I can still believe...

Media gaming.

How many more times they gotta pull that football away before you realize they’re never gonna let us kick it?

Not going to EVER happen. And I miss Jon Stewart so bad.......