to allow for subpoena info from the State Department.

We can do this all day - making Republicans defend Trumps corruption is powerful indelible stuff.

to consider the 2nd Amendment and Turtle said the would file a motion to table that too.

And as soon as they get back, he says he'll vote for tabling this amendment too.

Asshole.

Article II vote is now in.

Until the evidence is brought up at the end.

Maybe that will change Republicans' final vote on the both articles.

to present at an Impeachment trial.

(of course there have only been 2 other Impeachment trials before this one too)

if you include judicial and other federal impeachments

Cheryl Mills was pretty prominent as one of Clinton's defense team managers/members.

She and Michael Steel agree, McConnell cut a deal with Collins and Portman on his earlier concessions in exchange for a party line vote on EVERYTHING ELSE.

"No facts. no documents, no witnesses."

the American people going to do just roll with it, or maybe we should roll them. The party of tRump vs. some the sane American people.

I'm so fucking pissed. The GALL of this shit. They have nothing but contempt for our country, the Constitution, and the idea of truth.

Local broadcast ABC, NBC, CBS are back on "regular programming". PBS showing previous recorded Adam Schiff.

their cult membership. Even Susan "I'm Concerned" Collins. I hope each and every one of them up for election loses.

to their opponents. Sara Gideon in Maine, and Amy McGrath in Kentucky.

Let's Go!

SENATE COVERUP!!

I am listening to NPR in order to do necessary things while following the 'trial' .

Early on, an NPR commentator engaged in blatant, shameless bothsideism. When Pubs claimed that the trial is set up the same as Clinton's and Dems pointed out the glaring differences, the NPR commentator ssid, during a break, that both claims were correct and then cited similarities while glossing over differences.

NPR also annoyingly cuts into speakers with 2 and sometimes 3 back to back announcements on the hour identifying all their local affiliates, who is speaking at the moment, which party they are with, and the 'news' that "You are listening to the US Senate impeachment trial of President Donald J. Trump."

By the time they finish, I have missed big chunks of the speaker's comments or arguments.

need to keep them happy.

You might be able to try CSPAN Radio (app or from their weblink - https://www.c-span.org/networks/standalone/?autoplay)

I don't think that the radio version requires you have a cable/sat provider subscription to use like their video streams (when done directly from the CSPAN website). None of the talking heads except during recesses or breaks.

She's getting into what is all the crap that the "3 Amigos" were doing (and she just mentioned Ghouliani).

as part of the impeachment.

if he really wants to be an ass.

I could not love her more.

Demings is doing a great job of laying out the importance of these records from the state dept. These are not unreasonable requests.

Years of propaganda.

What they haven’t yet felt are the repercussions of their dysfunctional dogma. They’re bleeding the country of value - moral and monetary. It should catchup with them, and could occur before the election. It didn’t just start with tRump. We’re already paying for republican policies from past decades. They deserve to go down for their corruption and siphoning off of the futures of the younger generations.

That his memo noting the Ukrainian scheme is being held at the State Dept.

and release all of the docs and telephone calls that trump and Rs are withholding?? And, when released, would there be any charges that could be levied against trump for this when he is no longer pres???

you have Pence there who can do a "blanket" pardon.

Only way to nail him is from the state of NY (or other states that have cases).

Daymmmmmmmm!

He's not making a very strong case... about anything in particular. But that microphone is sure covered in spittle.

because of a lack of those facts or the law being on their side.

AND HERE IT COMES! (as a closing)

So mad

S-Cow seems to throwing a trump.

while bullshitting right now about "Why doesn't the House subpoena??!!!111111!".

I’m in good company with Schiff on that one, and so much else.

GOP Senators will realize they've walked right into a trap of their own making.
They really aren't the smart party, are they? Two plus two.

else going on behind the scenes. Maybe there's a deal(s) that the "mushy middle" Rs will vote with McConnell now in return for being able to vote for docs and witnesses later? Because this is not a good look for the Rs.

So when kupperman sued to avoid complying with the subpoena, the Intelligence Committee assumed Bolton would do the same when he threatened just that.

Since then, the kupperman lawsuit wound up in dismissal at the end of December, and interest in Bolton has been renewed as a result.

(More generally, he should testify because it’s the right thing to do.)

I hope they don’t sleep for the rest of their lives.

“It’s the pResident that wants to rush through it.”

...
And that’s the truth.

That’ll be another against mcconnell, and one or two other candidates.

watching all of this.

so I expect he has read up on what happened with the Clinton impeachment and was probably aware when the Nixon inquiries and hearings were going on given his age (he would have been 18 in 1973).

I thought to myself, Roberts is the one guy who is going to know if this is correct or not.

is that he will give one side a good "win" and then come back around and give them a good "loss". Literally. Like a (bizarre) "balance".

(e.g., rule "for" Obamacare and then come back around and rule "against" VRA Sections)

He is a freshman Congressman (from 2018) so this is his first big break. As I understand, he was one of the freshman who had originally campaigned against Pelosi when she was running for speaker.

Made it about 30 minutes. Not the most exciting television. Hopefully it will pick up after all the housekeeping.

debating the Rules Resolution (including debating the Amendments to it and then voting to table them by Turtle).

HOWEVER, the Democrats ARE getting info out to the public again - and to the Senators, many of whom (including on our side) haven't had chance to really delve into the case evidence outside of what their aides may have summarized for them or what they read or heard in the news.

deciding the process. The past three segments have been presenting arguments in favor of specific amendments to allow various testimony and documents.

By getting actual evidence in, they are not simply making dry arguments for inclusion of witnesses and documents. They are exposing Republican obstruction and whitewashing for all the world to see.

With the Clinton impeachment, it was a huge deal. I remember lots of watercooler talk at the office about it. No one was talking about this one today. It doesnt seem like as big of a deal.

Impeachment is a major historical event. I'm so far not feeling it with this one. Is it because the outcome is supposedly deter,ined? I dont know.

everyday is some new trolling, nobody can keep up with it all. the Clinton impeachment was still basically pre cable and pre internet for the masses. it is a new world and the troll is a master of distraction. distracted morons can't keep up with truth and fact even if they wanted to.

And it's a beauty to behold on our side.

They have been excellent :: competent, well-prepared and totally aware they are also speaking to the American public, not just the Senators.

WELL DONE!

I just missed him.

For scrap metal to fashion armor for their vehicles when he was stationed in Baghdad. That when troops don’t receive funds or equipment they need, it is a personal matter to him.

Then turned to the hundreds of millions withheld from Ukraine. Said that we know there’s more to the story. That we know this, because the pResident had to turn to the OMB to find a way to further hold up the funds.

He mentioned how many in the senate chamber voted for funding to Ukraine. (I didn’t catch the number, but I liked that he referenced their votes.)