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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/27/20 THREAD 4****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212915852
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212916276
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212916812
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Mossfern
(2,571 posts)that they brought Hunter on board to clean up their act?
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)is that Hunter was no longer involved with Burisma after 2014. We are now in 2020 and they are trying to do their Squirrel!!!!!
And she ALSO won't talk about Ivanka and her "conflict of interests" with those Chinese copyrights.
crickets
(25,987 posts)Can we talk about Ivanka and how much money she and her husband have grifted since she 'gave up her life' to the American people?
Can we talk about Jared Kushner, his security clearances, his business conflicts of interest, and his activities in Saudi Arabia?
Oh, if they really want to talk about nepotism, LETS DO.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)But by doing so, it basically encourages the media to do their "both sides" and really look into them.
trueblue2007
(17,243 posts)H2O Man
(73,651 posts)This is getting hilarious.
Mossfern
(2,571 posts)how much they paid him? Is that illegal?
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)They see witness coming
blaze
(6,384 posts)Mossfern
(2,571 posts)the US cannot ask another nation to investigation especially if there is no direct threat to the US. If Ukraine wanted to investigate Burisma, it's up to them to decide.
She's not making the case to call Biden as a witness just because there was a perception of a conflict of interest.
blogslut
(38,021 posts)Your president extorted a foreign government in trade for a demand that they announce an investigation into his political opponent's son. Your president fired and tried to ruin a sitting ambassador so he could get dirt to use in his re-election campaign. Your president obstructed congress to cover up his abuse of power.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,585 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)she dressed for the boss.
Mossfern
(2,571 posts)one of Ivanka's designs.
lpbk2713
(42,770 posts)Someone else prepared what she is supposed to say.
She only reads a few lines and then turns the page. They used big type.
Bondi is a clown.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)Funny coming from the people who complained Dems were looking at Rudy in an unfair context.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)This is very bad - giving so much air time to 'Biden' - not everyone follows facts too carefully, and she's doing her job - sowing doubt. I feel very bad for anyone who pushed for this trial who supports Joe during this primary.
I am not concern trolling. I really don't see how this pig's ear is going to turn into a silk purse for all the stay-at-home non-voters.
Best wishes to the House Managers - Sincerely!
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)that have already been debunked.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Count on it.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)All their 'proofs' rely on official statements from official employees. That's not where the dirt is.
crickets
(25,987 posts)madaboutharry
(40,238 posts)It sounds like this is the first time shes reading it.
They want it both ways. The hold on aid had nothing to do with the Bidens. Oh, look at what a bad thing Hunter Biden did!
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)She stumbled over some passages and lost her place several times. Rarely looked up from her notebook. She didnt write what she was reading and didnt bother practicing it. Shes a real asset to the team, but the question is what is she adding??
blaze
(6,384 posts)Link to tweet
White House Claim: VP Biden acted inappropriately
Reality: Trump Admin officials testified Biden was acting as part of US policy, with our allies & bipartisan support
George Kent said the fired prosecutor was corrupt & covered up crimes that were known to have been committed."
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)elleng
(131,240 posts)a member of the Kasowitz firm, Eric Hirschman.
ancianita
(36,176 posts)paid her off not to prosecute him over his "university." 45's whole team is morally, ethically compromised. Talk about quid pro quo!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,510 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)(they finally put it up)
elleng
(131,240 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)how much did they spend on Benghazi? On hounding the Clintons, especially Hillary, over the past decades? Hillary was exonerated every time.
And just for the heck of it:
https://www.wonkette.com/bill-barr-drew-dicks-all-over-mueller-report-but-lets-liveblog-it-anyway
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)These idiots are just pumping smoke up humpers ass and performing for the orange idiot.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)while this goes on in plain sight -
dweller
(23,684 posts)in the foreground ?
✌🏼
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)Kali
(55,027 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)Christ on a pogo stick.
And they DARE to go after HB for not disclosing income.
Mossfern
(2,571 posts)related to Russia?
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)was on the list of the many folks found in both the -
Panama Papers - https://www.webcitation.org/6gVXG3LvI?url=https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/overview/intro/
Paradise Papers - https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/paradise-papers-exposes-donald-trump-russia-links-and-piggy-banks-of-the-wealthiest-1-percent/
crickets
(25,987 posts)Panama Papers and Deutsche Bank, oh my. There's some serious corruption with Putin and Donny in it up to their necks.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)and were originally attempting to piggy back onto the NY State subpoena for Drumpf's *state* income tax returns. The judge threw out the suit from Drumpf against that House Committee where they were trying to preemptively sue to keep the House from gaining access to those returns from the accounting firm - Mazars I think? (and the Committee hadn't requested anything yet). But they know it's coming.
C_U_L8R
(45,027 posts)and right back to the Trumps and Russia
nolabear
(42,001 posts)What a shitshow. Im trying to think who could say something scathing enough.
PatSeg
(47,678 posts)What a snoozefest.
Mossfern
(2,571 posts)so now they're doing the "work" via the trial.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)And if Hunter is called to appear, this mountain of bullshit will be brought down to the actual molehill of nothing that it is.
crickets
(25,987 posts)The controversy stems from diplomatic actions by Biden while his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of Burisma Group, one of the countrys biggest private gas companies. As vice president, Biden pursued an anti-corruption policy in Ukraine in 2016 that included a call for the resignation of the countrys top prosecutor who had previously investigated Burisma.
Yuriy Lutsenko, the current prosecutor general, said that neither Hunter Biden nor Burisma were now the focus of an investigation. He added, however, that he was planning to offer details to U.S. Attorney General William Barr about Burisma board payments so American authorities could check whether Hunter Biden paid U.S. taxes on the income.
I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections, Lutsenko said in an interview Tuesday in his office in Kiev. Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws -- at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board. He said if there is a tax problem, its not in Ukraine. [snip]
Back in March 2016, [then VP] Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine failed to address corruption and remove its Prosecutor General, Viktor Shokin, who soon after left office amid widespread calls for his dismissal. Though Shokin had begun a probe into Burisma, it was dormant when he departed, according to a former prosecutor.
At the end of the day, Shokin submitted his own resignation, Lutsenko said.
dpibel
(2,881 posts)Umm...dude.
The President thought he could crime with people listening because...
wait for it...
THE TRANSCRIPT WAS SECRET UNTIL THE WHISTLEBLOWER BLEW THE WHISTLE.
This is not rocket surgery, gang.
crickets
(25,987 posts)All we got was a paraphrased memorandum.
backtoblue
(11,346 posts)As he looked at the House managers
Kali
(55,027 posts)Obamaaaaa!!!
nolabear
(42,001 posts)Its so far outside the scope of the trial its insane.
backtoblue
(11,346 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Fuck this moron
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)underpants
(182,958 posts)When he started into it a Saturday d out loud No! Not the hot mic! and then he took it through several twists of reality and wormholes of reality.
Arkansas Granny
(31,536 posts)apparently it's Obama and Hunter Biden on trial.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)They can't refute the 21 hours of evidence that was presented last week.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Connive, deflect, and contrive information - baseless accusations, been debunked 50 ways to Sunday, and they make fools of themselves...but then, they seem to be fools to begin with...
JHB
(37,163 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)"Do we want the type of government where questions about suspect conduct are suppressed or dismissed as illegitimate because someone is intimidating or screams at... or is just too important? No, that is precisely when an investigation is most important."
What have House Democrats been saying all along?
Oh - He's claiming Biden was screaming and intimidating people re Burisma -- but it sound a lot like someone else we know. Also, this argument that Democrats have one standard of conduct for their own and another for everyone else is classic projection.
Does anyone else remember a comedian named Franklyn Ajaye? Because I am having a "Baby, does your head spin around?" moment right now.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Although this has nada to do with t-rump's impeachment.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)This has been incredible. Just madness.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)underpants
(182,958 posts)I cant tell you how many WTFs I let out loud during the drive home but this is whats on the radio all day.
That bit about the Obama hot mic was truly bizarre.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)elleng
(131,240 posts)gotta be prepared with SOMETHING!
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)But from what I gather, except for PBS, the broadcast networks have already broken away.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,536 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)but his whole body is in motion. Definitely can't miss that!
underpants
(182,958 posts)Never run to an end.
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Stupidity is not a defense.
femmedem
(8,209 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)underpants
(182,958 posts)Robert Ray can't read very well. He also doesn't know how to breathe while making a presentation.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Then garbled the very quote. Lol.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)They love "changing" the rules. This argument again about "crimes" once again is specious.
underpants
(182,958 posts)oh and since we're on the air - campaign ad material against Biden.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)that campaign ad material!
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Narrow and restrict definitions of offenses til the white collar crime no longer fits the new standards. In this instance, theyre not worming towards the conservatives on the Supreme Court, theyre playing to a room of cowering republican politicians. And the American public will pay for all the folly that ensues.