Rubin used to disgust me, today I am glad that she is making her opinion known.

It's as if the body politic cannot digest the horror and must transition to a more palatable characterization just to stay sane. I'm serious, actually, and not being cynical.

“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.”

has turned into professional wrestling: the guys who used to be the bad guys are now the good guys and the former good guys are now the bad guys....


It boggles the mind.

to be legitimately elected.

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He was indebted in the effort that the American soldier did and endured in the war. His agenda in the Republican Party can be explained by looking at the 52 vs. 56 platform. Democrats would be ecstatic to have the 56 Republican platform to run on.

On edit, corrected years and spelling.

Then what does that make moderates? Right-leaning neo Republicans?

Lets not be like them and just spout out crazy shit. We can recognize the bullshit with Nixon, Reagan and HW Bush, but they were legit elected. The electoral college elected Bush for his first term and Trump for his, but the other 3 aren't a question.

by sabotaging the peace process that LBJ was brokering in Viet Nam. Reagan did the same thing by giving Iran weapons to hold the hostages until after the election; GHWB was the mastermind of that process and rode reagan's coattails into the WH.

It's not "crazy shit." It's history.

repigs can't govern at all.

There is no greater litmus test than this impeachment. Although I hesitate to say it, with our backs to the wall, some will step forward as patriots, while others will crawl to the gutter.

This is like the great American political poker game. Both sides are all in and know the cards have to be played.

they are just evil people just doing the right thing mostly out of self preservation.

Well said.

But the Republicans have shown a remarkable capacity for enduring humiliation. They always have an excuse for why they ducked their responsibilities. Or shirked their duties. The House has sent literally hundreds of bills to the Senate for consideration, and the Majority Leader is content to let all that legislative output languish while the president tweets on and on about the "do nothing Democrats." Under ordinary circumstances, the media would report on this, smack the Republicans around, and put the lie to Trump's tweets.

But there's no other side to report on, so the media just shut up about the House's legislative output and the Senate's indolence. In the same vein, all this evidence mounting up against a Republican president can't be offset by evidence against a Democratic president. How fair is it to report on Republican wrongdoing without concomitant Democratic sins? Oh, like "we only have one president at a time" somehow explains the lopsided nature of reality. Clearly, it's a Derp State plot! So nobody can report on it, because them's the rules.

no matter the noise levels.

They need to keep good governance at the top of news priorities. Not bad. Not silly false equivalencies. And they need to explain why they do that.

Let's get rid of these assholes. We are lucky that Nancy Pelosi has afforded us the opportunity to get rid of this garbage.

to BELIEVE, to have FAITH, that justice will prevail. Just like in those old Perry Mason shows. You could always believe that, no matter how bleak it looked, the innocent person would be vindicated and the villain would be revealed under Raymond Burr's incisive questioning in the character of Mason.

As Rachel pointed out tonight with her coverage of Nixon’s impeachment, this situation has every possibility of “going off the rails.” I personally think this is what she believes, too, as this is at least her second story on this topic.

Nevertheless, news story after news story, no matter what the angle, continues the “unlikely to be impeached” mantra.

an acquittal will be the dictatorial rope that saves his ass.

Remember how there were talks "we" needed someone younger and from middle America to lead House Democrats?

Pelosi (with help from staff, other Dems, and countless legal/political experts) played it very, very well.

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO.

...and there is a damn good reason for that.

Imagine republican candidates this year trying to explain that?

but the president knows best. Then they have a prayer meeting and potluck.

That's a good point though.

Republicans fell all over themselves in 2005 to restrict the right of a spouse to remove life support from his brain dead wife. The passed ridiculous laws and exposed themselves. In 2006, they lost the Senate and the House in that year's election. Their reckoning will come quicker this time as they ignore Trump's criminality to keep him in office for a few more months, for that, they will pay a big price. Imagine a republican running for office trying to explain why his or her party let a guilty person walk when they are always screaming about law and order?

Aren't we better off with the latter? Giving Trump any type of bragging rights is not very wise.

Bolton has always considered himself to be a Real American. When he saw first hand what Trump was doing to turn America into a dictatorship, when he saw how corrupt he was, Bolton realized he had to do something to save his country and this book was it. And this book for the GOP is the proverbial tiger by the tail. He will testify, but the GOP dare not try any tricks on him because Bolton knows where the bodies are buried and he could expose every corrupt GOPer in congress, if he chose to. The GOP can't smear him - they may try but it won't work because his book is collaborated by evidence that was used to impeach Trump in the House. Even worse for the GOP is what could happen when Democrats question him. They have already proven to be superb at laying down an airtight case in the Senate. Methodical and piece by piece they built a case against Trump that is irrefutable, and they will use the same methods to get Bolton to testify. All the GOP has left is lies and smears. They have nothing - they can yell and scream and distract and lie and attack but their little act has proven to be impotent. They look like fools all the way up to their closing arguments. All they will do is drive yet another nail into their own coffin. Trump is toast. The GOP knows that - once Bolton gets on the stand, that's all she wrote. The question is will the GOP rats abandon the sinking ship Trump and hope to save their own skins, or will they ride that boat to the bottom? I say Mitch will, and good riddance. But ain't it weird that Bolton wound up turning his back on GOP politics to save his country? Like we have been trying to do since Bush?

And hopefully cathartic to compose as well

John Bolton was waiting in wings to damage trump?, knew book was damaging and coming out soon, so delaying sending the articles was a ploy to push Bolton to act more quickly??

And how odd to try to tie Pelosi in - into the Bolton machinations of his book PR and release? Is she saying they worked together? Thought the delay in turning over articles was due to the fact McConnell hadn't announced the rules of impeachment? Then, it was to kind of wait for Parnas. Now it's because we were waiting for Bolton? Genius.

Dizzying.

It’s more that in slowing down the pace a bit, Pelosi has made it possible for these various scenarios to develop.

Bolton’s book has been a known factor for a long time, so it is not outside the realm of possibility that she did think of it, but I think it’s the more general move of adjusting the pace and allowing for the thinking process take place.

do something worse. Hold articles, and something bad is bound to happen. You can't go wrong with trump doing something worse, for sure.

I feel like that is the point. She didn't know for sure it would or. if it did, where it would come from, but she knew it was possible because with Trump, its really obvious that it was probable. She knew drawing out the House inquiry with court battles wasn't going to work out well. So she went for it and then sat on it as long as she could, knowing that something with Bolton had a chance of breaking. And she won that much of her gamble.

And then how can they vote to acquit him and keep him in power?

sane and just world like that anymore. Acquittal is certain and no one will blink an eye.

But he will be exonerated - by the Senate, right? He WILL BE acquitted no matter whom they agree to listen to - 'partisan impeachment' Senate acquittal.

That is all that will matter to him/them.

DO you think he really cares what the process was? Or his staunch supporters will care?

Meh.

even though it's blatantly obvious they've done everything the could to rig the process and that they've already decided the outcome.

they're now merely worried about how to get away with it.

She is still owed apologies for the vulgar, sexist and ageist insults that were hurled her way.

But with witness testimony and evidence, the American people can observe how the GOP handled things.

That's our best hope imo.

AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!