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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/29/20 THREAD 2****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212924433
H2O Man
(73,648 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)of a criminal statute.
Garcia noting that previous impeachments have NOT required "criminality" be required.
underpants
(182,958 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)and had her slide up too!!
They just ended her presentation.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)Having his running commentary would've been enlightening, especially during Dersch's fanciful explanation of Constitutional Law.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)House Managers first.
Why didn't the House bring up Executive privilege?
Funtatlaguy
(10,890 posts)hlthe2b
(102,448 posts)I think I'm going to bring up MSNBC on tunein and go on a long walk with the dog...
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)no witnesses and no documents - not a single shred of evidence. So there was no "Executive Privilege". Nothing cited to justify the doctrine of "absolute immunity" - and every court has rejected this concept.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Karma13612
(4,555 posts)blogslut
(38,021 posts)There just isn't
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... guy to lie without impunity then this becomes more of a farce.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)giving up their nukes and how we left them to die on the front line.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)in order for the REST of the money to be able to be spent because of the hold.
"There was harm and there was foul and don't forget that they are not an enemy but are a friend"
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Really? REALLY?
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)So NOW they are insisting YES there was a quid pro quo.
gademocrat7
(10,678 posts)Wednesdays
(17,453 posts)"It didn't happen."
"Well, it did happen, but there was no quid pro quo."
"Well, there was quid pro quo, but everybody does it..."
Mersky
(4,986 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)personal interest.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Dirtywitch's explanation of quid pro quo vs. the action being taken.
Do they have padded cells in the building? They may be needed soon.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)PatSeg
(47,675 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)blogslut
(38,021 posts)This ain't that
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)FOR ANY QUID PRO QUO
IDIOT
spanone
(135,907 posts)somebody tie his hands down
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)spanone
(135,907 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)damn..that dude has some strange body language going on.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)brooklynite
(94,808 posts)...as long as he thinks he's a good President?
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)He has lost his mind.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)bdamomma
(63,938 posts)is a great lawyer.
blogslut
(38,021 posts)There, I said it
Funtatlaguy
(10,890 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)Fire 'em up!
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)(does this "change the perspective"? )
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)RW radio and tv have made his name into Pavlov's bell -- they foam and swell up and screech at the mention of Obama's full name. Schiff invokes it while doing the "other shoe" analogy so as to maximize their anger while considering Trump's actions.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)Thank goodness Schiff came back with something that was valid and on track.
The nobody is without conflict argument is why ethics rules exist.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)He knows whats going on, on both sides.
Arkansas Granny
(31,536 posts)Arthur_Frain
(1,866 posts)nt
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)backtoblue
(11,346 posts)Dr appts all day..yuyuck.
Thanks everyone for their play by play! Im trying to catch up.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)I can't type fast enough for the plays.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Did House attempt to litigate Executive privilege issues.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)Remember StarfishSaver pointing out the reasons the House was being so meticulous on these points? Remember all the DU lawyers pointing out, over and over, why it was important to follow through each agonizingly slow appeal level?
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)then that would help to expedite through the courts. Otherwise the courts would send it back and said - well did you do x, y, and z first?
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... plainly are not true.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)dem4decades
(11,310 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)off until the election (I think question from Heinrich D-NM)
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)Go Adam!
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)This trial is being conducted "upside down" and yet WH wants to blame the House for doing it.
There was no special prosecutor gathering evidence to present to the House, because the DoJ is part of the corruption. The House couldn't get all the evidence because, see Article 2 in the impeachment.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)WTF? Turtle is sitting on 400 bills from the House that they REFUSE to work on.
Bettie
(16,134 posts)is work on impeachment trials...except that most president's aren't utterly and completely corrupt.
Kali
(55,026 posts)convict the MF on the obvious evidence now and get back to work - easy! no need to have witnesses at all! wow I can agree with the morons.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)And wasn't it true it only took 1 day each for depositions under the Clinton impeachment?
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)Does he actually think the Senators are buying this $hit?
Or is he aiming his answers at Trump supporters?
He is full of crap.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)(including mention of Sondland having given $1 million for the inauguration )
THIS IS A TRIAL! Involves witnesses, and documents, and evidence. There have been 15 different impeachment trials. Every one had witnesses and documents.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)but only for first time in Senate.
Let's call John Bolton, Mulvaney and other witnesses.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Article III decision.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)(BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THERE IS NO "BLANKET IMMUNITY" )
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)actions done for "national interest".
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Let's hear from the witnesses and see the documents that show this (including Bolton).
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)$1 million from a foreign country then wouldn't Obama ask to investigate?
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)what total assholes.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)And how it would lower the bar if the pResident is allowed to ask a foreign government to investigate his political rivals.
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I thought he expertly batted down their snarky question.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Now he's completely messing up and confusing 3 different CTs....
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)Drumpf said that based on Article II, he can do anything he wants. How can we be sure that a President is not above the law?
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)We have had a shifting series of rationals and explanations...
First that subpoenas before the resolution aren't valid and then subpoenas after the resolution are not valid.
BumRushDaShow
(129,737 posts)but the House can't because they are being blocked to them.