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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/29/20 THREAD 6****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212924433
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212924891
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212925266
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212925685
Thread 5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212926039
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)aid was sent 45 times to Ukraine UNTIL after Biden announced.
Don't be distracted and believe Russian propaganda. The facts will come out.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)- Neither April 21 or July 25 call with Zelensky mention word corruption
- DOD certified Ukraine met anti-corruption benchmarks months before hold
- By July 25, Zelensky established anti-corruption agenda
- pResident tRump pursued baseless investigation
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(Posted here and end of Live Thread #5)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)There was no quid pro except there was a quid pro quo and so what?
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)why wouldn't the Senate assume the same?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)I have not been able to stomach much of this, but I am glad I unmuted long enough to listen to Schiff's last rebuttal. Well done, sir.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)superpatriotman
(6,253 posts)We dont deserve Adam Schiff.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)beveeheart
(1,373 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)They've been very good about showing everything up to today.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Watching other streams. CBS somewhat reliably puts up images of the questions.
On edit: CBS seems to have dropped all posting of questions mid-evening.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)public who are watching will jump on that! It's the first time I heard that accusation made so forcefully, and I watch this junk all the time!
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)and usually it's only the junkies who would still have this on...
napi21
(45,806 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)not a "Republican playbook" or a "Democratic playbook".
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)there was. Why should we believe that anything the President says has credibility?
nolabear
(41,999 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)"No quid pro quo, but quid pro quo".
Why would the President do his shakedown when other people were in earshot? It means he thinks he is above the law.
(aside from me - I understand they have now started to limit who are on the calls)
dweller
(23,683 posts)but in english
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Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)IcyPeas
(21,916 posts)are they all disgruntled, he asks?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)underpants
(182,956 posts)I just learned today about this and it's the law.
this guy has a cold dark soul.
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)handed hundreds of millions of dollars were handed over to him. So why wouldn't the reverse act not be considered the same?
underpants
(182,956 posts)The reverse not true?
underpants
(182,956 posts)backtoblue
(11,346 posts)Great question!
nolabear
(41,999 posts)It does go to the heart of Well he paid them anyway! He can do what he wants! Letat, cest him!
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)underpants
(182,956 posts)nolabear
(41,999 posts)Not, he didnt do it, just they didnt accuse him right.
Botany
(70,617 posts)Phil bin is just a
BTW my apologies to weasels ... years ago when I was deer hunting I had a little weasel crawl out of
hollowed out branch from a dead tree stump about a 2 feet from me ... dressed in his/her winter white
outfit .... and just look @ me. I gave him/her some of my ham sandwich.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)Might not be a direct quote.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)And some more, whaw wa whaw wa wa wah
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)dweller
(23,683 posts)that's gonna play well
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BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)to testify what he has said publicly.
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)and witnesses.
The House agrees to what the Chief Justice rules.
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)hes been allowed to screw things up for YEARS now. Were so far past overturning the 2016 election territory, that its ridiculous.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Im sick and tired of these cheating, spoiled jerks complaining of unfwairness.
underpants
(182,956 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)wouldn't he have to specify exactly what docs or parts of documents are privileged?
riversedge
(70,359 posts)elleng
(131,227 posts)Yes, he's doing well.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)Just wondering if House managers could signal that they want some Senator to send a "please respond to WH counsel's response" to the desk.
napi21
(45,806 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)dweller
(23,683 posts)yeh, rhetorical ?
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Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)dweller
(23,683 posts)when it's his ass in the hot seat
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BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)He has no idea because it is bullshit. (and hint hint -here is where OMB can answer that question if they were allowed to testify.)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)proceedings?
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)do it now and fast!"
President offered every due process right during these proceedings.
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)they could have been reissued afterwards and why weren't they done?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)The House is empowered to determine the rules of its own proceedings. This is not controlled by the President.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)"The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment."
"Each House [of Congress] may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,493 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)MLAA
(17,342 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Garcia:
...the Judiciary Committee began an investigation into President Nixons misconduct for four months before approval of the House resolution.
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Can search and review the transcript here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?468632-1/senate-impeachment-trial-day-9
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)What did the President say, when and to whom?
BumRushDaShow
(129,691 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)So many dead horses (lies and double-stacked lies).
So little patience and forbearance even possible at this point.
Truth crushed to earth will rise again - we can only hope.