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@CaslerNoel
I got a message a couple months ago from a Navy Medic who was stationed at the Pentagon and formerly the WH. Suffice it to say many are aware of Trumps drug abuse. His trip to Walter Reed was not the first but third. He also told me percocet was in the mix now.
@realDonaldTrump
rzemanfl
(29,573 posts)MineralMan
(146,338 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Hes exhibited several signs over the years of drug use. Percocet usage wouldnt surprise me. At his age and unhealthy lifestyle, hes probably in a decent amount of pain.
I know Ive seen videos over the last year or two where he appears to be limping or have an unusual gait.
And I may be reaching here, but people who are in pain tend to be meaner than those who feel well. He spends a LOT of his time angry and raging. I could see part of the reason hes always so angry because he just doesnt feel good.
tblue37
(65,502 posts)has always been vicious.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)They don't make you evil, they just make you less inhibited
58Sunliner
(4,419 posts)his narcissism and sociopathy. Look at any stimulant side effect, especially if long-term abuse is an issue. My brother is addicted to snorting Ritalin. He stayed at my place for 2 weeks and kept telling me he heard women being abused through the window. Even made recordings and said to me, can you hear her? Then he played back white noise. I can't tell you how hard it was not to laugh. Different people will present differently. He is a non-violent person with a high IQ. I can't imagine what the stimulant addiction would do to a person with a borderline IQ and previous issues. But I bet paranoia is a factor. Blaming drugs is like blaming alcohol-excusing the inexcusable. Don't really care how he got there, he allowed it to happen.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)He is the former Apprentice "staffer" who claims Trump's drug abuse was common knowledge.
There are no secrets on a movie set, and I'm assuming that's even more true of working on a television show where a crew is together for months, over a period of seasons. Somebody had to clean Trump's honeywagon/dressing room. Several times a day a production assistant empties Mr. Trump's trash basket, etc... Those people know everything, and during lulls in production that person talks to the production assistants, and the production assistants talk to any number of other people on a production. Gossip is endemic on sets, especially about the people who are rude or not well-liked.
There's also the fact that you are in very close proximity to the same people for hours a day five or six days a week. Noticing when someone is "off" isn't difficult.
EDIT: Having said that, I'm not sure how he is getting current information about the president's drug use. We would have to believe he has this former Pentagon source, I suppose.
Talitha
(6,625 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)Back during the Cold War years, people often regarded the Turkish military hierarchy as sort of their version of Supreme Court, stepping in when the elected officials got too far off the neoliberal farm.
For an American, that's a pretty disturbing thought it, that the constitutional balance depends on the military stepping in to overrule an elected leader. But now that we have an Ottoman in the White House, I'm finding a little nuance in my fear of military interference. There may well come a time when we want the generals to disobey an order.
I'm kind of creeping myself out even thinking that thought
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)is the best place for inside news?
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)but, Team Trump will just say that he's a disgruntled former employee
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Nope.
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)that they said the same about Bolton he was a "disgruntled employee".
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)He came forward some time ago with the allegation Trump used Adderall on the set.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)a Band-Aide on his right hand covering what looked like a I V insertion mark. You knew something was up. Notice he never allows his hand to be in a camera shot after that. The Guy sure looks like a Drugie.
irisblue
(33,036 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Unless you got a judge& lawyers in front of you in a court of law.
Honestly, I wonder if the Nov trip to Walter Reed was for an emergency swallowing test. We've all seen how his speech patterns have changed, how involved his facial & throat muscles have to work to get out words. And he mentioned only eating mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving in theater with the troops & when was the last public recording of him eating food?
Prep for a swallowing test is fairly simple, no food, drink, smoking for a couple of hours before the test and you need an XRay machine, technologist (👋 ,a radiologist and a computer system. Walter Reed has all that.
Yeah I know this is all supposition.
:::Forgot
You also need staff from Respiratory Therapy and suction equipment just in case, also a Speech Pathologist is good to have near by.
I apologize to Respiratory Therapy staff
Mosby
(16,384 posts)irisblue
(33,036 posts)Start with this website
https://www.uofmhealth.org/health-library/tp23477spec
In my experience, limited tho it maybe I did not specialize in this area, as dementia/organic brain damage increased over time, the loss of muscle controls increases, (you've seen his gait changes yes?), the risk of aspiration increases. Aspiration is inhailing a foreign object into the lungs, for example smoke particles cause problems.
The epiglottis acts as a 'stopper' at the top of the throat, it closes the airway, momentarily so the digestive tract swallows. If the epiglottis fails, even momentarily, for any reason, you'll cough really hard, sometimes pass out(remember Shrub choking on pretzels in '02?).
Hope this helps
dameatball
(7,400 posts)bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)bdamomma
(63,931 posts)so it proves that he is not healthy at all. I just hope his mental and physical health throw him a curve.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)He couldnt swallow for some unknown reason and had a DNR/no feeding tube order. He only received fluids by IV. He basically starved to death. He was 86....
irisblue
(33,036 posts)It is a hard thing for a family.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Not a day goes by that I dont think of him and how proud and lucky I was to have him as my father!
Submariner
(12,511 posts)I agree with that concept 99.99% of the time.
But when a racist F'ing moron with nuclear weapons who just turned back the EPA clock 50 years on environmental protection is all drugged up and F'ing up my life and pursuit of happiness, then that rule does not apply at all...Period.
irisblue
(33,036 posts)It would be hard.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)I would and I'll bet anyone else would too unless a you were a Trumper. But those need to go from being a health care professional to mental patient anyway.
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Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Link to tweet
He/She had to look into Trump's alleged Adderall-snorting nostrils every morning during the filming of The Apprentice.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)So it might be true.
My dad got addicted to percocet in hospital after a car crash and in traction for months. He never complained about it...LOL
zentrum
(9,865 posts).....and traitorous to not go public. Aren't they there to serve and protect the country? Where is their real patriotism?
Seven Days in May time.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)But then, all they have to do is go public--right? Expose him. Or at least tell Congress. The military could whistle blow without usurping the 3 branch system---no?
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Traildogbob
(8,834 posts)Give him all the drugs he wants, except viagra. The sooner he croaks, the better the entire world will be. Switch his Coke out with powered white battery acid. Brew Diet Coke with Flint water. Pump coal infused air into the whitehouse air vents. Send him to meet the asshole that sent him to the presidency, God. Mansions and streets of gold. Unlimited virgins. Him and God could exchange stories of impregnating married virgins and being the greatest at everything. See, liberals can be nice and wish you well even when you are an asshole.
Iggo
(47,577 posts)FakeNoose
(32,823 posts)... "first, do no wrong."
czarjak
(11,301 posts)Traildogbob
(8,834 posts)Like, senators and trump, hand on bible, so help me God, fair and impartial jury? I was just spitballin sarcasm. Of course I mean trump no harm. Just like for him to hurry towards his paradise of Gold, Mansions, and hangin with his equal in power. Wishing him good stuff. I am sure some Latinos with connections can hook him up with some good stuff, really cheap. Could be a part of the new trade agreement with Mexico.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Hell, you can probably show red staters and GOP senators pictures of trump with a needle in his arm and spaced out on whatever, and they'll say, hey, he's just like one of us. Or, boy, do I envy that guy. I'd love to be spaced out like that. Whataguy.
Two hours in makeup every day? Midwest farmers response? Hey, we'd spend a couple of hours in makeup every day if we were president. Whataguy.
Two hours on the toilet every day tweeting hate. Red staters? Hey, we got him beat there. We spend more than two hours a day on the toilet tweeting hate. Gotta up your game, guy. Otherwise, whataguy.
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)leftieNanner
(15,179 posts)He's fat and he apparently still has teeth. Meth is really bad stuff.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Look closely at tRUMP's pics.
And are they his real teeth?
leftieNanner
(15,179 posts)It's horrible. But as ugly as Trump is, and as much as he has deteriorated, I don't think that's his drug of choice.
llmart
(15,557 posts)Without access to all that the Dump has available to him, who knows what he really looks like. Heck, we've all seen pictures of him where he looks absolutely awful and that's AFTER he's been made up.
leftieNanner
(15,179 posts)Meth addicts are, from the images I have seen (and a guy who was in the Emergency Room when I had to take my Dad in) very thin - gaunt, in fact. Orange Man is even fatter than when he ran for office. Granted, he has he ready supply of KFC and hamberders. So, who knows?
Nitram
(22,913 posts)karin_sj
(812 posts)Too bad he didn't use his cell phone to secretly record some of the horrendously racist and sexist things that the orange creature has said during the time Casler worked as an Apprentice staffer. You would think that somebody would have done so by now, considering the dire state our country is in right now.
There are so many horrible, immoral, and illegal things that this vile man has done over his entire life. There has to be a ton of people (in addition to Parnas and some of the other brave people who have come forward). It's time for his unbelievable luck at avoiding the consequences to his actions to run out.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Before the Senate votes.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)tinrobot
(10,926 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)not Oxycontin (a much more powerful opioid)
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)lied about that visit, he said it was an asthma attack. WTF
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Moostache
(9,897 posts)I already pray daily to the universe for karma to strike him down via a cardiac attack, if he does it to himself, all the better in my book. I have no problem with him OD'ing himself out of existence.
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)do us all a Favor. And let us be at peace.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)and who just might elect him again. Then he'll be in office for another go, and as long as he is "useful" he will stay (and threatens not to leave, a real constitutional crisis) and we'll be back here still talking about all of this and...then what?
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)this country will be unrecognizable
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)DU might just become a real "underground" again...sigh, we were so innocent then, when DU got started. We thought W was so awful...
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)still be here??? we all know what dictatorship's do they keep communication away from the people, and we see that now with him spewing about fake news and just giving people propaganda to mess them up psychologically.
I just hope the American people (I exclude DU'ers) wake up. What will it take, social security gone, the climate, health coverage.
Is this what we want for our country or for other generations a dictatorship? Sad just really sad.
If things do get out of hand, think about your options or your means of survival. Get things in order. Or am I just being too paranoid.
Lets start with getting this vile POS out in November, and vote him out.
saljr1
(273 posts)which I did until I had surgery years ago, you develop delusions of grandeur and invincibility. Wait a minute, he's been like that all his life.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,304 posts)Wouldn't surprise me with all the sniffling Trump does.
ecstatic
(32,748 posts)73+ years old, morbidly obese, sedentary, lives off fast food, always angry and agitated, decades of drug abuse...?
Am I missing something?
malaise
(269,219 posts)Use more Don the Con, use more - pretty pretty please!
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)a member of the benzodiazepine family, which also includes xanax and others.
Prince, on the other hand, died from taking a fake percocet, which contained fentanyl, a more potent opioid, that caused a lethal overdose.
malaise
(269,219 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)(but tremendously dangerous if not used by a trained professional) anesthetic.
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)here on a thread.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)I posted it as a thread starter, also yesterday. I didn't see it in a thread. I saw it on my Twitter feed.
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)I know it was posted though. Very interesting though, and everyone knew he has drug misuse issues.