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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 6****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212928625
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929057
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929614
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212930044
Thread 5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212930587
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)(re: witnesses)
Clarifying Cippy's bullshit about requiring the entire Senate for depositions.
If a President can tie up subpoenas and deign what subpoenas were "valid" then the oversight will be eliminated. Imagine what that would do to the balance of power.
crickets
(25,987 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)for acting on acting contrary to the advice of his advisors?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)Is it just me or is WH counsel getting really snippy?
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)slow down and allow time for witnesses?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)Oh, it would take too much time to wait for that!
This was the same issue the WH counsel didn't recognize when House managers pointed it out earlier, when WH was complaining that certain witnesses/paperwork were absent.
Quoting Judge Jackson's decision that the Executive cannot decide its own immunity.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29991537/don-mcgahn-testify-impeachment-hearings-federal-judge-ruling/
Love how Schiff point out they have a SCJ present to rule if necessary...
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)Pound sand Philbin.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)Sorry, reflex.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)They controlled both houses! And yet heres their old CT topics being spun up, again.
Smh
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Is a good one.
underpants
(182,950 posts)Massaging his ego.
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)and the final report said the administration did not cooperate. Does Drumpf require more compliance than other Presidents?
crickets
(25,987 posts)WH has produced not one document requested, not one witness other than those who defied orders and testified anyway.
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)Posted below.
nolabear
(41,999 posts)And is he having a little stroke?
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)along with other nonsense.
backtoblue
(11,346 posts)Just WOW.
underpants
(182,950 posts)Nice. Seems either tired or amped and about to run out of gas.
nolabear
(41,999 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)It all pivots on Alexander
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)and Turtle put it in his lap and didn't look at it...
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)and if acquitted, what is the national security risk if that behavior continues unchecked?
underpants
(182,950 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)PatSeg
(47,649 posts)Constitution looks a bit drunk!!!
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)PatSeg
(47,649 posts)I never realized he looked drunk! Perfect timing.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Has been clipped for the time being. Will do what I can with cell signal.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Router was stubborn and slow to come back up. Thought I had a bigger problem when I posted about the drop.
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)then doesn't that contradict the need for witnesses?
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)need witnesses.
This guy Philbin is a jerk.
You cannot have a proper trial without witnesses.
Philbin is getting testy.
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)(The DOJ is part of the Executive Branch and reports to the President and is arguing the opposite of the WH lawyers)
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)(despite the denial in the statement that this is what they were doing )
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)Yovanovich - to "take her out".
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)About Marie Yanovitch "about taking her out" from Blumenthal.
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)into the Bidens.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)They claim there's no time for witnesses, yet ask why the House didn't take alternate measures that take years to complete.
It's disingenuous at best -- they just want it over and covered.
crickets
(25,987 posts)Schiff is going through a long, long list of National Security staff who have testified in hearings in the past. Shows bad faith to claim the House should go to court to compel witnesses, but then it takes too much time to go to court to compel witnesses.
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)eta Rachel is talking about it now. Sen Alexander is going to announce his vote tonight, apparently.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)Murkowski, it would are sense, will follow. But maybe not.
underpants
(182,950 posts)bdamomma
(63,931 posts)Moscow Mitch is pissed off because he is not going to get his way.
I hope Lamar tells him to go to hell.
Please we got to have witnesses.
crickets
(25,987 posts)Somebody needs to say no to Mitch sometime. Now is a good time.
spanone
(135,900 posts)Lamar could cement his legacy as a true centrist in this era where they don't exist
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)deals with them
If I was retiring I would say I'm going with the country.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)Well done
underpants
(182,950 posts)Philbin. Yea I will create a speakers future.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Dem2theMax
(9,655 posts)I can't watch it live. I will end up with bleeding ulcers. But I can follow, through all of you who are posting here. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)of more evidence.
Philbin now describing that there may have been problems with whistleblower process.
crickets
(25,987 posts)that they don't have and haven't seen, but you know... *wink*
Odious turd.
avebury
(10,952 posts)He is coming across to the people as trying to bend over backwards to appear reasonable which makes the Defense team look totally unreasonable and afraid.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)House record. Should the House attempted to do a resolution to complete the record and what is the impact for the future.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)WH letter that indicated that the WH would not cooperate, then it has been months of requests and court cases.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Mentioned that the wording, sole power is only used twice in the Constitution - one for the House to impeach, and another for the Senate to try the case.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)in any court in America."
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)committee with the whistleblower and how many times have there been contact since that first day of contact?
IcyPeas
(21,916 posts)Link to tweet
crickets
(25,987 posts)eta wait, this isn't even Lamar Alexander. Whoops.
Darn, I read it too fast and got my hopes up.
Still, it's good to hear someone speaking out.
IcyPeas
(21,916 posts)PatSeg
(47,649 posts)It is so frustrating.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Ill add another, YAY!!!
elleng
(131,211 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)Mossfern
(2,570 posts)that the Senate will vote no witnesses, no documents and go on to vote to acquit.
Better to be pleasantly surprised than bitterly disappointed.