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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCanada closes the market and bans assault-style weapons.
Watching the press conference on the CBC right now.
Current owners have until 2022 to turn in or deactivate them. They cannot be used during the amnesty period. They will receive fair compensation for them.
Good job, 🇨🇦
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)Two year amnesty, after which you will be a felon for possession.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)acquire a license to possess a limited number of such guns.
The problem though is we would have to modify the Second Amendment to specifically state that otherwise the courts would probably throw it out.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)
Hiawatha Pete This message was self-deleted by its author.
Bev54
(10,082 posts)but covid interrupted it. They just got it done now while NS shooting is still fresh in everyone's mind, helps to shut down the gun worshippers.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,572 posts)Current owners can apply for a grandfather permit, but all the permit does is allow you to store it. You cannot sell it, give it away, convey it from its very secure safe (a req. for owning guns in Canada) or bequeath it. You cannot use it, even at a range, and you can't own ammunition for it. Upon the owner's death, it will have to be turned in and destroyed.
We are guardedly optimistic about this.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)I definitely would if I were Canadian.
I would even sell my semi-automatic handguns if they offered the right prices if we ever go this route in the US.
I will not ever sell my revolver. I like that gun.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts) who arent into gunz say weve had enough. Make them write it off like any bad/immoral investment.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Hiawatha Pete
(1,802 posts)One option is people that owned them legally will be able to keep them under a "grandfather" clause
That's the way it was always done in Canada when a certain type of firearm was reclassified from "non restricted" or "restricted" status to "prohibited" status , which is exactly what is being done here.
Per CTV News Canada:
"Gun owners who already own these assault-style weapons will be allowed to grandfather in their ownerships, allowing them to still possess these guns under specific terms"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/these-are-the-1-500-assault-style-weapons-now-prohibited-in-canada-1.4921041
An example is the 12(6) class of prohibited handguns -ie short barreled handguns less than 4inches. Some people still legally own these in Canada as they were grandfathered.
With this new ban the government had already created a new 12(9) prohibited class with the passage of Bill C71 months ago:
https://bcfirearmsacademy.ca/prohibited-classes-of-firearms-12-2-12-3-12-4-12-5-12-6-12-7-12-9/
It only remained to create the new list of the firearms that would be banned, which was done by an order-in-council (kind of like a Presidential executive order in the US).
When a rifle is prohibited it becomes a paperweight, can't use it for hunting or at a range and the owner cannot transfer it to their heirs. When they die, gun is surrendered & destroyed.
Saves the Government some $$$ versus having a buyback as the only option.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)riversedge
(70,350 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)These weapons are designed for one purpose, to kill people.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)How true.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)Not for "fun", not for "target shooting", not for "protection". You can use any other gun for those purposes. Military style weapons were invented to kill as many people in the shortest amount of time. That's it. There is no reason for any responsible citizen, or any irresponsible citizen, to own them. None.
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Disaffected
(4,570 posts)Canada. Next up, handguns.
I'm all in favour even though it might not dent the gun crime rate a whole lot as about 90% of gun crime here is committed using guns smuggled into Canada from the US. Still, it does help counter the gun culture...
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Shotguns, hunting rifles and revolvers should remain for hunting. They need to respect the rights of First Nations on hunting.
Disaffected
(4,570 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)👍
Disaffected
(4,570 posts)that's step 2. Handguns are included.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)They won't be seeing "promiscuous gun toters", (as a head of the NRA called them long ago) standing around intimidating people and making shows of force in public, then. If they do, then they have a remedy.
We should try that here!
iluvtennis
(19,882 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,925 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)If you want Canada to ban guns entirely, spit the mealies out of your mouth and say so.
Iggo
(47,577 posts)Vinca
(50,318 posts)malaise
(269,219 posts)just like New Zealand
pazzyanne
(6,559 posts)If I were younger, I would be looking at obtaining a Canadian citizenship. Today's USA is not the country I was born into and lived in until 4 years ago. I am simply heartsick. However I will fight the good fight until my dying breath. I am joining the growing group of people who feel the way I do. We are in the fight of our lives and the life of the USA.
packman
(16,296 posts)warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Seemingly little chance of that happening here, in the USA.
keithbvadu2
(36,962 posts)AR-15 style weapons. The favorite for shooting schoolchildren.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)"Most common" would be more accurate. Most shooters take whatever weapon is available. AR-15 style rifles are just the most common rifle sold in the USA, thus very likely to be available to the shooter.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)they think it makes them look cool and feel extra manly. Part of that cool, "manly" feel is the weapon's ability to put a large number of rounds down range in short order. And that's also what makes them de rigueur for mass murderers.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Amishman
(5,559 posts)Australia did fairly well with this and paid out the low end of actual market values, and got 25-50% compliance (depending on whose numbers you believe)
New Zealand's recent ban and buyback was under 20% and paid under pre-ban market value.
They don't want to give up their toys, exploiting their greed is probably the best way to get around their stubbornness
roamer65
(36,747 posts)After April, 2022 it probably will be a felony level offence in Canada to possess them.
Offer a reward for turning them in.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)gun nuts tend to live in rural areas with other gun nuts
The problem in Australia, NZ, Canada, and the US is that there are not accurate registries (in some cases no registries at all). Without records for verification, proactive enforcement isn't possible. They know it, which is why compliance drops way down if there isn't financial reward to comply.
Just throw money at them, its still far cheaper in the long run.
OMGWTF
(3,980 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,534 posts)world wide wally
(21,757 posts)ffr
(22,674 posts)is going to have a lot of American families having their children schooled there, where it is safer.
hack89
(39,171 posts)so it is hard to see that happening.
ITower68
(23 posts)pecosbob
(7,545 posts)Take the Senate and the Presidency and we, too can do that.
IronLionZion
(45,563 posts)as you are defenseless against socialist tyranny
Judi Lynn
(160,649 posts)aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)That will be a felony level offence.
Disaffected
(4,570 posts)that's where most of the Canadian crooks get their restricted firearms now.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Cha
(297,806 posts)sellitman
(11,608 posts)In the winter I'd love to move there.
Doc_Technical
(3,527 posts)Ruger mini-14
and
the Russian SKS?
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Hangingon
(3,071 posts)All variations of the 556
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The next day you have the "Ruger Mini-15"
roamer65
(36,747 posts)I believe they mentioned that in the press conference.
Upthevibe
(8,083 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)Yavin4
(35,450 posts)Aren't you? Just daring us.