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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNote to the Guy in the Ford F350 Super Duty Pickup:
If you see me at the supermarket and I'm wearing a mask, there is no need to mock me, scold me, or insult me. I'm wearing a mask to protect you. You aren't wearing one. I'm not sick, as far as I know, but I might be.
So, if you come up to me and say, "What are you afraid of?" keep in mind that the closer you are to me, the more likely you would would get infected by me if I were sick with the coronavirus. And vice versa.
No, I'm not afraid. I'm taking precautions to help you and others. Are those precautions necessary? I don't know, but I am told they are by people who know more about disease transmission than either you or I know.
I don't know you. You don't know me. Why not just ignore my mask? It does you no harm, and my intent is to continue to do you no harm. So, please climb back into your Super Duty truck and mind your own damned business!
Thanks.
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)That is all they are and all they ever will be
aggiesal
(8,940 posts)MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Basically zombies.
1. Wandering around spreading the disease.
2. Possible to outrun most. The real danger is the sheer numbers.
3. Some are more aggressive in their desire to infect others.
4. They are seeking brains since they no longer have one that functions.
imanamerican63
(13,830 posts)It Is truck drivers too! I will be wearing a mask into a receiver or a truck stop and there will always be some mocking me along others !
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)There are people like that all over the place. The only thing they have in common is stupidity.
soldierant
(6,940 posts)The conversation would probably go (or at least start:
Idiot: "What are you afraid of?"
Me: "Idiots like you."
Tiger8
(432 posts)Moving back to Massachusetts, I thought Id be done with them.
Nope. I moved into an old house right above a Trump Humper with his 2 massive trucks....but the worst part is that he smoked inside his apt, which came up into my unit. So after some back and forth with the landlord, who said smoking was forbidden, I finally left a note on Humpers door telling him I have lung issues and his smoke makes me sick, and life threatening to me in the age of COVID, and to please smoke outside, open a window or get a filter.
Well, dont you know it.....Trumper sets off a smoke bomb with a terrible chemical odor that was so bad that I couldnt breathe. I must have washed my clothes 20 times in all sorts of ways and the odor was still there......ended up having to throw out almost all my belongings, slept in my car until I found a new place.
dware
(12,449 posts)whether it's at a pick up or drop off point, a truck stop, etc., I always wear my mask and gloves, it's just common sense, which seems to have left a lot of there "protestors" and every day folks.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)space it's assault. I do live in a stand your ground state.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)or have I gone to far?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I have the skills to boost a taser's power a bit, if you know what I mean.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)The governor (Michigan) made it mandatory in stores. I still see an occasional person without one but for the most part we're following the rules.
The vast majority of Michigan is not represented by the idiots that showed up at our state capital last week.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)of the people in the supermarket yesterday were wearing masks. Maybe 20% also had gloves on.
Squinch
(51,070 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)I just looked the guy in the eye and then ignored him and got into my car. I don't have the time or energy to get into an exchange of words with people like that.
Squinch
(51,070 posts)imanamerican63
(13,830 posts)Arguing will give them what are looking for!
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)by getting into it with them. That trick never works.
imanamerican63
(13,830 posts)They walk away thinking they proved their point and you proved youre the bigger person not them!
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)mountain grammy
(26,661 posts)Squinch
(51,070 posts)mountain grammy
(26,661 posts)None of us should!
I was born in NYC.. my heart aches for the toll this has taken. I can't imagine being there and remaining civil to any trumper. All of this is Trump's fault.
Squinch
(51,070 posts)percentages are way down.
Watching the nonsense playing out across the country, I think NY won't be the worst hit when all is said and done.
And yes, it is ALL the fault of Donnie Bodybags.
mountain grammy
(26,661 posts)We're over 800 lost in Colorado and traffic is increasing daily. People want to think it's over. I'm sure it's not.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Yeah, cough on other people - what? To make a point?
Just wow.
Squinch
(51,070 posts)And you know what makes me say, "Wow?" All the people, sick and utterly alone, lying on cots at the temporary hospital that was set up in our local shopping mall to take the overflow from our local regular hospital.
That makes me say, "wow."
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Then adding to the drain on our health system, which will lead to more dying on cots alone.
I dont get your logic, but hey, if it makes you feel good to encourage people to spread this horror...
Squinch
(51,070 posts)a mask, you'll understand.
And the way it seems to be going, it doesn't look like many areas will be escaping that fate.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)No, Ill never understand the way you think. Never.
Wonder how you felt during the AIDS years when some didnt want the bathhouses closed. Youd wish the disease on them? Hmm?
Squinch
(51,070 posts)respond to the grocery store asshole as I would when the virus comes to your town.
And no one is wishing the disease on anyone, but your hyperbole is noted.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Youre encouraging people to cough on others; if that is not wishing the disease on someone, I dont know what is.
And no, I wouldnt respond to people in grocery stores if that were to happen. It hasnt, and I believe about 1% of the stories I read here saying this is happening on any wide scale.
Good on ya if you want to dip to that level.
I have friends in health care, and theyd be horrified to read this crap about coughing on others. No hyperbole there, bub, you said it. Not me.
Now, you have a wonderful day. A blessed one.
Squinch
(51,070 posts)flying_wahini
(6,679 posts)wnylib
(21,701 posts)Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Squinch This message was self-deleted by its author.
snowybirdie
(5,245 posts)feel the need to disparage or mock those of us who listen to experts, not rw commentators? Like their Orange idol, they show they are so very insecure. Poor things.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)modified by some sort of masculine bravado. Waste of time all around.
sop
(10,274 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)I'm not afraid of guys like that. I just have little time to waste on them.
sop
(10,274 posts)He obviously doesn't care if he is wrong and winds up infecting others.
No body likes the current situation, but some people seem to enjoy trying to make things worse.
Chainfire
(17,675 posts)and go into a coughing fit.
Harry Walpurgisnacht
(78 posts)"What's wrong, Mr Ford F360? A macho man like yourself surely isn't afraid of an alleged 'virus' Yer Fuherer said is a hoax!"
Polybius
(15,514 posts)MineralMan is in his mid 70's and has a family to go home to. It's best for some of us to avoid confrontation.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)The idiot might come down with Covid-19, blame it on MineralMan and try to sue him.
They say ignorance is bliss. In this case, ignoring the idiot is.
aggiesal
(8,940 posts)Chainfire
(17,675 posts)Whenever I fear of being intimidated by bullies, I will just have to stay home.
There is an old saying in the Deep South, it goes, "Never fuck with an old man. If he is too old to fight, and too slow to run, he will probably just kill you."
whistler162
(11,155 posts)I am an adult and believe in setting an example like adults are supposed to. Since I work in school districts which are naturally crowded, NOT wearing a mask is illogical.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)I really wonder how this Fall is going to look. Will school on-site resume? I expect the current "opening" of things to be a big failure.
I think we're going to be in lock-down mode for quite some time, until a vaccine is available or treatments become more curative than just shortening the length of the illness.
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)Just remember some of them that are acting macho and mocking people, are the same ones behind closed doors taking in disinfectants and such hoping it helps them from getting the virus. Or, they'll be the same ones that'll be expecting to go straight to the front of the line at a health care facility if they or a loved one does end up getting the virus.
LiberalArkie
(15,731 posts)to recognize me"
Voltaire2
(13,233 posts)Just curious
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)2golddogs
(107 posts)I hope everyone got as good a laugh at this answer as I did. Hit me just right, very nice!😀
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,054 posts)A mask interferes with their dear leader's narrative.
It interferes with their NEED to find something to do other than play shoot-em-up games on their couch. Something like shopping.
It interferes with the narrative that the working poor and people of colour need to be forced back to meat packing plants and nail salons.
It interferes with their plans to strangle gubmnt beginning with unemployment benefit reductions.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)I could not agree more.
I went into a Kroger store the other day. Almost no one in the store were wearing masks, except for the workers. They are required to wear them. This makes no sense, because the workers are the ones at most risk. They are in the store for hours every day. I wore a mask that day, but felt the social pressure from those not wearing masks. No one said anything to me though. That would not have been wise. ha ha.
Paladin
(28,280 posts)Don't know why it is, but I've found it to be true over the years.
Bonus vehicle observation: Nobody who drives a Corvette looks like they ought to be driving a Corvette.
CottonBear
(21,597 posts)😎
<snip>
"I owe you big," Biden tells Leno, moments before pulling a massive burnout at a secure Washington D.C. training facility. "You realize this is only the third time I've gotten to drive this in seven years?"
The Corvette isn't just any old muscle car. It holds a lot of sentimental value for all the Bidens.
"My dad didn't have a lot of money, but he ran the largest Chevrolet dealership in the state for years," Biden says. The '67 Corvette was his father's wedding gift to him. That makes it worth much more to his family than its estimated value ($78,000, according to the show).
As a Christmas gift years ago, the vice president's sons had the engine rebuilt.
<snip>
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/10/21/joe-biden-gets-rare-permission-to-drive-his-67-corvette-proceeds-to-burns-rubber.html
NBachers
(17,155 posts)CottonBear
(21,597 posts)catchnrelease
(1,946 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,282 posts)That was fun.
yellowdogintexas
(22,282 posts)Last edited Sun May 3, 2020, 10:23 PM - Edit history (2)
besides The Massacre, there is the Corvette Factory/National Corvette Museum!
All Corvettes are built in Bowling Green and have been since 1981
https://www.corvettemuseum.org/visit/plant-tours/
and then there was this (film from 2014)
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)There's something about having that model that attracts creepy people. A lot of them here are diesel-powered, too, with straight through exhausts, it seems. There's nothing like being next to one at a traffic light and having them floor it when the light goes green. Black smoke and pounding noise is just what I'm hoping for at traffic signals.
Oddly, most of them don't look like they are ever used for heavy towing or other work-related needs. They're mostly ego-boosting vehicles, it seems to me.
They all seem to think my little white KIA Soul is a fun car to blow off at lights, too.
argyl
(3,064 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)Can't have a scratch or anything, I guess.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,054 posts)dalton99a
(81,656 posts)**Ford F-350 SuperDuty **
Virtually no one who buys Ford's mightiest pick-up actually needs it. A Ford marketing guy once confidentially told me that the typical buyer of their largest SuperDuty biggest pick-ups was basically a lonely saddo, someone who wanted more friends and figured the way to achieve that exalted state was by becoming the "go-to" guy in their community, the fellow on your block you call when you have, say, two side-by-side refrigerators, a diesel generator, and a pallet of cinderblocks to move. Such a call rarely comes, of course, but they want to be prepared anyway. They don't need a SuperDuty pickup, my source explained, they need a pricey, SuperDuty confidence boost, and Ford was happy to sell it to them. Yeah, come to think of it, why do they call the engines "Power Strokes" anyway? I asked my host. "What do you think?" the Ford man replied, in full smirk, as he made a demonstrative and rather vulgar hand gesture.
The vast majority of buyers would do just as well with one of Ford's plenty-beefy F-150 or -250 pickups, but they just like being able to tell the guys down at the volunteer fire department, or (if they're lucky) some not-so-bright lady at the bar, that they can do it all thanks to their big, big truck.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)bluestarone
(17,093 posts)BIG TRUCK, BIG DIESEL burners and GUNS (lots of them) usually!
Kaiserguy
(740 posts)seem to be the Trumpers favorite truck brand at least in the GOP Hell of NW PA. For every Chevy or Dodge Truck that I see with a trump sticker I see 6 to 7 Fords with one
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)Ferryboat
(926 posts)And cough in their face. Fuck em if they dont understand.
I know not a cool thing to do. But i have never been cool with assholes and tend to respond in kind.
I have had enough of trump supporters who can't respect others. You want to have a debate about issues, I'm willing to listen. You too should be willing to listen without interrupting.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)samnsara
(17,652 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,612 posts)...is that making your truck loud doesn't make it cool. It just makes it annoying to other drivers.
onethatcares
(16,199 posts)forgot to take my mask with me. Next door is a surgical/medical supply store. I went in and bought two cloth masks. I didn't do it for myself, I did it because I love my wife and I would not want to infect her by accident. Keeping my aerosol out of you guys is just incidental.
As far as f350 owners and all those other jacked up headlite in your rear view mirror truck drivers, are you ever going to get any dirt on that thing?
azureblue
(2,155 posts)You know what they mean by "cull the herd?"
Gothmog
(145,746 posts)titanicdave
(429 posts)......I was just entering my local Safeway, and I was wearing my mask as I always do.......so some dingbat was coming out of the store with NO mask and he glared at me and then told me, "if you libtards think I am going to wear a mask, you can go pound sand".....I just glared back at him and proceeded into the store to get my weekly grocery shopping done......he just walked to the parking lot......
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)I wonder how that's going to work out for him in the ICU a few weeks from now.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)I'll leave it for you to figure out.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)dalton99a
(81,656 posts)appalachiablue
(41,184 posts)Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)I understand it also protects others, in case I am infected. That is nice and a good reason as well. But I am self-isolating to a very large extent, and am very extremely careful (some would call it paranoid ), and my likelihood of being infected is pretty low. So I will be honest - while I would wear a mask to project others, that is not the main driving force.
I have read that wearing a mask mainly protects others, but I have also read that WHO and other agencies have been economical with the truth in their public statements (some might say they were simply lying "for our own good" ). Certainly the story has changed, and I have stopped trying to find the "truth".
Edit: Fixed typo that caused an unintentional smilely
LisaM
(27,847 posts)I know two people with that truck - one has a horse, and the other one is a self-employed brick mason. They are both observing all the rules.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)Like many stereotypes, there is some truth to them, but that is what makes them so insidious.
I remember a past job where I always walked past a big Hummer in the parking lot, and I of course imagined who drove such a car/truck. One day, it happened we arrived at the same time. The driver turned out to be the exact opposite kind of person I imagined, in every visible way. After the initial surprise, I was so happy it turned out that way. Of course, I still stereotype - it is what we do as humans.
Initech
(100,115 posts)And as I'm getting in my car, some woman who was walking in the restaurant (with no mask, mind you) and blurts out at another person "NO MASK!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!". It's like some people just pride themselves on being assholes.
reACTIONary
(5,789 posts).... "Fuck off asshole". Said a bit loud and with a snide chuckle. It takes them entirely by surprise and they just don't know how to respond. Makes the walk away more satisfying.
It works especially well on smart ass younger folks.
Chalco
(1,311 posts)"What's the matter? Got small dick syndrome?"
Moostache
(9,897 posts)Chalco
(1,311 posts)I've been wondering about those guys with super large trucks that have
gigantic tires. What is that point? What are they compensating for?
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,759 posts)As I was leaving the grocery store the other day, wearing my mask, a guy going toward the entrance seemed to go out of his way towards me so that he ended up a couple of feet away from me as we passed each other. I thought it seemed odd at the time, but now I wonder if he was deliberately trying to intimidate me.
In the last week or so I have noticed fewer and fewer people wearing masks and seems like the stores are getting more crowded so that is more difficult to keep your distance, especially on the weekend. So I will be looking for times to go shopping that might be less popular.
Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)You can stare a hole through them if you want, but dickish, mocking comments are a plea for you to engage with them so they can run their own mouth and blame it on you for responding. Ignorant people have a special, inside drive to prove how smart they are. But they need someone to play the part of an ignorant shill in their exchange. Dont do it.
Silence is a powerful weapon when used correctly. This calls for a non-verbal response.
Let him stew. Thats the best response to take control from a verbal bully. Silence.
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)I just looked him in the eyes and got into my car. I'm not looking for an argument these days.
marble falls
(57,403 posts)see no reason not to take a strategy to avoid it. It's not fear, its a weighing of risk.
rocktivity
(44,582 posts)by people who are infected or contagious and don't know it.
rocktivity
Arthur_Frain
(1,866 posts)Utah is king of the high roller fords. Does not matter if youre headed out to do some work on the ranch, driving grandma to the doctor, headed to Walmart to buy some more flags to own the libs with, or out to the mailbox to check the mail, the preferred vehicle of choice, is the hijacked F150.
Of course they drive with all of the courtesy youd expect.
Bonx
(2,079 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)Bonx
(2,079 posts)totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Do you really think that he reads DU?
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)And why would you leave that message for me since I already wear a mask?
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)You read this one. You posted a reply in the thread. I replied to your reply.
This is DU. That's how DU works. Seeya.
oasis
(49,434 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,697 posts)I refuse to engage as well. Not worth it. Glad you have this place to vent... you are right, some people are just stupid idiots and nothing you can do about it.
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)but my plan is to say, "How do you know I am not carrying the virus with no symptoms?" I think the "Dumb ass" will remain silent.
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)Coming up and mocking people wearing masks?
Mariana
(14,861 posts)In this case, because MineralMan is in his 70's, they're harassing someone whom they can clearly see is at higher risk if he contracts the virus.
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)People over 60, and definitely those in their 70s already take a lot of abuse in this culture. Let's go right out and say it: we throw away our elderly people as if they were disposable lighters or something. Basically, if you aren't in the 'key' demographic groups 25-34 and 35-44, you ain't nothing.
That's just wrong, especially when older Americans have been wiped out in the stock market crash and find they have to go to work - then we have these assholes who are basically willing to sacrifice millions of us so they can have their FREE-DUM.
I never cease to be amazed by the cruelty of people.
Initech
(100,115 posts)Some people just pride themselves on being ignorant assholes.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Never had this happen to me.
I dont go shopping as much as so many here apparently. So many grocery stories...
But when I have ventured out, no one has ever said a thing to me about wearing a mask.
CarltonWoodstone
(1 post)I was in a Tractor Supply yesterday with a mask on, and a man "explained" to his 6-7 year-old daughter (no masks on either) that I "must be a Yankee" and if I was that scared, I should stay out of the store. I was born 30 miles SOUTH of this store.
mercuryblues
(14,551 posts)But if he is so adamant about masks, you'd be willing to take it off to please him.
appalachiablue
(41,184 posts)The same old North v. South, divisions and tribes in place
Love the moniker & welcome to DU
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)last week. I said "I don't speak English" in perfect English. They looked befuddled as I wakled away.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)This is like your 4th or 5th at the store story in 10 days or so
Is there no stay at home rec in your state?
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)I posted about that, as well.
I go to the supermarket once a week. That's a necessary trip, so it's just fine here. Minnesota doesn't have a rule preventing people from doing necessary things.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Set there and make judgements. Thats kinda creepy to me
And now you are saying mind your own business?
Can you not see the disparity ?
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Your disinfecting wipes. A solitary male
Watching people, what kind of vehicle they drive, whether they are male or female, whether they are alone or not, what race they are, whether they are wearing a mask or not, where they park
Dude there are another type of men who are known to exhibit such behavior
My wife and daughters watch out for such
jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)Second post in 2 days stereotyping people who drive pickup trucks. Maybe we shouldn't judge people based on the kind of car they drive? I mean I know you did this extraordinarily scientific experiment in which you saw 4 guys in pickup trucks not wear masks at the grocery store, but aren't we a little better than this?
rainin
(3,011 posts)is for protection."
Sorry I can't post because I don't know how to post images here.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Are so concerned about your right to wear a mask.
IronLionZion
(45,591 posts)I get it that people's freedoms are being oppressed by socialism these days with stay at home orders, but why would anyone care if you choose to wear a mask?
Here in DC it's mandatory inside any business and enforced with police at the busier grocery stores and drug stores.
Glaisne
(517 posts)and coughed several times right into his face then asked him "What are you afraid of?"
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I live in a red county and I ordered a mask cover that is red and blue and in large very legible white words saying "BIDEN 2020."
MineralMan
(146,340 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)Demovictory9
(32,487 posts)MineralMan
(146,340 posts)Doesn't matter. That one was black, though.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)Olafjoy
(937 posts)If someone comes up to me and gives me the business about my mask, I am going to pull it down and start massive coughing in their face saying Glad you dont mind. That mask is hot!!
gay texan
(2,480 posts)It would have not been good. I don't know when to keep my mouth shut.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... is apparently a threat to them somehow.
Im a former Toyota Prius driver who experienced my fair share of unnecessary and malevolent tailgating, usually from the driver of a giant pick-up truck.
I finally pulled over a few times after driving about 20 mph over the speed limit in those cases, only to see the pick-ups slow down after passing me.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)fucking idiots.I wish they all would die off.
MRDAWG
(501 posts)he can keep wearing his trump 2020 hat.
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Peacetrain
(22,880 posts)I hope he gets really really sick..does not die, no permanent damage, but so sick that he wakes up and smells the coffee and stops confronting people who are trying to protect him.. or as my husband told some idiot the other day when they pulled up within a couple of feet of me in a line.. "six feet back or six feet under.. the choice is yours"..
FakeNoose
(32,835 posts)... cannot enter any stores, city buses, or public places in the Pittsburgh area. The stores that are open (not many) have signs up saying "You cannot enter unless you're wearing a facemask." If there's no sign on the door, then a store employee is standing there wearing a mask, telling people they can't come in unless they have one. Some stores are selling masks, others are just sending people away.
Our infection rate has been lower here than the Philly area (thank goodness) but we still don't fool around. Nobody gets to decide on their own whether they need a mask. I'll be honest I haven't been out to too many places other than my local grocery store for at least 6 weeks, so I only know this from reading it in the newspaper.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)is the kind of reply that will shame a jerk like that back into the stone age.
notKeith
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