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Sickening
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/no-arrests-black-man-shot-210655414.html
The case was briefly in the hands of DA George Barnhill, based in Waycross, but he recused himself because his son works for prosecutors in Brunswick.
But in a memo from Barnhill to police, the DA said he believes Gregory and Travis McMichael should not be indicted. He said the father and son had "probable cause" to believe the victim might be a burglar and were within their rights to arm themselves and chase him down.
bdamomma
(63,940 posts)over the cliff now, people have no moral core anymore. We are witnessing the decay of morality.
misanthrope
(7,432 posts)This kind of thing has been going in America for longer than anyone on this site has been alive.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)at one time, there was a push to push back against bigotry. There was a movement to try to get people to not be racist fuckheads. That's all gone now and things are going backwards now again.
Yes, it has been going on since forever, but it is still wrong.
misanthrope
(7,432 posts)It is wrong but I don't think we are regressing because it never stopped. We've been made more aware in the last decade of how prominent violence against African-Americans is and how often they are harassed and assaulted by law enforcement.
We're not going backwards. Our eyes are merely more open now.
I am aware of that, very sad.
sinkingfeeling
(51,484 posts)only be limited by how far we're willing to drive? How can you 'stand your ground' if you keep going miles?
Dumbest thing I have ever heard from a DA (excluding AG Barr).
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... family say, mistake the shooters for burglars one day in a similar situation ?!
This is some shit here
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)That's defense of yourself in the home, your legal place of refuge for hundreds of years under English Common Law. This wasn't even "stand your ground" technically - you cannot pursue someone and claim it if they defend themselves.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)Both McMichaels should be standing trial for murder and accessory to murder NOW.
The fact that they are not and that ANYONE would defend them from the video evidence of their hate crime is disgusting.
That was murder, plain and simple and it is on fucking tape for Christ's sake...
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)There's no sugar-coating or spinning that video!
It wouldn't matter if the jogger had actually burglarized a home either, and there's not even reason to suspect that at all!
Is that kind of behavior almost normal around those parts?!
The last time that I was in Georgia and stopped at a convenience store, the black clerk and customer who were inside looked aggravated at me until I started talking with my "Northern" accent. Then they smiled.
c-rational
(2,597 posts)cayugafalls
(5,646 posts)There was no crime. Just a jogger. What did he steal? Jogging pants?
This is sickening.
Kaleva
(36,371 posts)"The state of Georgia allows people to make citizens arrests. To make a citizens arrest, a person must witness a crime being committed and detain the suspect until police reach the scene."
https://www.redandblack.com/cops/citizen-s-arrests-legal-discouraged-by-experts/article_3649dc64-5eb6-11e2-b79f-001a4bcf6878.html
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Everything down here gets done by backroom deals and letting bigots do whatever they want. I know from firsthand experience.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Un-funcking-believable.
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)there were gunshots BEFORE he grabbed to get the gun away from the other guy. They were already shooting BEFORE he tried to get the gun away from the guy.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)where they have the right to shoot somebody for grabbing for their gun, but the person being held up at gunpoint doesn't have the right to grab at the gun to defend himself!
The sheer caucasity of it all is fucking startling.
misanthrope
(7,432 posts)Why wouldn't he be grabbing at the gun? Two rednecks in a pick-up truck pull bearing weapons and shouting at him, and he's in the rural South? He's got every reason to assume the worst and defend himself in any way possible.
Demovictory9
(32,487 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They do things like that down here and lie lie lie to get away with it. Bunch of bigoted sickos covering for each other, that is what this is.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I can't even say what I hope will happen to them.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)that can be used by the defense down the road.
Some real facts.
They did not observe him commit a crime at the time. They may think he was on tape committing a prior crime, but I don't see how a citizen's arrest would apply.
They attempted three times to get him to stop. He even attempts to move away from the man with a shotgun in his hand by running to the passenger side of the vehicle. He only turns to engage when the man moves towards him at the front of the truck.
If I jogging and some yoyo with a gun tries to stop me, I am going to do my best to defend myself as well. They have already committed a crime by brandishing weapons in an attempt to stop his progress.
By the way they are attempting to reduce the penalty for brandishing weapons in Georgia.
https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-panel-approves-bill-aiming-make-legal-brandish-gun/Oe2x0xPUTKP99PueauFWdI/
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)the case to a Grand Jury.
Midnight Writer
(21,819 posts)Nature Man
(869 posts)/sarcasm
Midnight Writer
(21,819 posts)Nature Man
(869 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I feel threatened by their existence
Plus I think they may have committed a crime.
I stood my ground.