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OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:15 PM May 2020

Cuomo says it's shocking most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

Most new Covid-19 hospitalizations in New York state are from people who were staying home and not venturing much outside, a “shocking” finding, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday.

The preliminary data was from 100 New York hospitals involving about 1,000 patients, Cuomo said at his daily briefing.

It shows that 66% of new admissions were from people who had largely been sheltering at home. The next highest source of admissions was from nursing homes, 18%.



Maybe the air vents.
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Cuomo says it's shocking most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home (Original Post) OneCrazyDiamond May 2020 OP
Or SoCalNative May 2020 #1
exactly. seems obvious TeamPooka May 2020 #3
Later in the article OneCrazyDiamond May 2020 #7
If you live in an apartment building PA Democrat May 2020 #18
"staying home" doesn't mean they got infected *while* at home unblock May 2020 #2
Exactly, or maybe lived in apartments with multiple points of infection possible, not single homes Baclava May 2020 #11
Apartment. Good point. Multiple people trafficking common areas. small enclosed spaces. LizBeth May 2020 #17
Since contact tracking isn't really being done, is this really a surprise? still_one May 2020 #4
What is the percentage of New Yorkers staying home? thucythucy May 2020 #5
I have not been out of the house except in the backyard since the early part of March. redstatebluegirl May 2020 #6
What a PITA, but I understand. OneCrazyDiamond May 2020 #8
We do our best. redstatebluegirl May 2020 #12
Tell me about it. they spread it everywhere, OneCrazyDiamond May 2020 #13
Your procedures are almost identical to ours. lagomorph777 May 2020 #14
You're very strong! dawg day May 2020 #15
It is not strength it is fear. redstatebluegirl May 2020 #20
Hope they shake hands and hug malaise May 2020 #9
Well, sheltering at home in a city as densely populated as NYC-- dawg day May 2020 #10
Could be food or groceries, or other deliveries Philostopher May 2020 #16
As Dr. Gregory House said MyNameGoesHere May 2020 #19
Not shocking at all -- if they go out even once, exposure, if they live with others who go out, even lettucebe May 2020 #21
"Largely" is probably a VERY relative term in a place like New York City DFW May 2020 #22
A number of factors here genxlib May 2020 #23

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
1. Or
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020

They aren't being honest about being out, or others in their household were going out and brought it back. Or when they did go out (market, liquor store, food) they were exposed to it then.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
7. Later in the article
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:29 PM
May 2020

“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
18. If you live in an apartment building
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:53 PM
May 2020

you walk in a common hallway, take steps or an elevator to take out your trash, get mail and packages, do a grocery/ pharmacy run, do laundry (if you don't have a washer & dryer in your unit).

If you wear a mask inside your apartment building, there is no guarantee that the people who rode the elevator 20 minutes ago or walked down the hallway or stairs also wore a mask. My son lives in an apartment building and has observed adults as well as young children in common areas and elevators without masks.

unblock

(52,392 posts)
2. "staying home" doesn't mean they got infected *while* at home
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:20 PM
May 2020

"staying home" includes people who ventured outside for all kinds of reasons, possibly including going to protest rallies or the dentist or the grocery store or the beach.

or who had someone else in the household venture outside to such places.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
11. Exactly, or maybe lived in apartments with multiple points of infection possible, not single homes
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:38 PM
May 2020

thucythucy

(8,102 posts)
5. What is the percentage of New Yorkers staying home?
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:22 PM
May 2020

If the overwhelming majority are staying home, it makes sense they'd also be a large demographic of new cases.

This is especially true since "staying at home" happens on a continuum. I've been "staying at home" but still need to venture out for food, prescriptions, walk the dog, mail, occasional trips to the bank or ATMs.

Nobody I know is able to simply stay home 100% of the time.

Then too, I know people who are staying home but have people living with them who continue to work.

It's a highly contagious virus. The question isn't how come people staying home are getting sick. It should be: how many more would become ill if people stopped sheltering at home?

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. I have not been out of the house except in the backyard since the early part of March.
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:25 PM
May 2020

I have been working part-time remotely since that time. My husband goes out to get groceries and meds once a week. He is younger and has fewer medical conditions than I have so he goes. I disinfect everything when he gets home. He showers and I wash his clothes right away. I spray the inside of the car, I spray the bags from the store before I touch them. I know this sounds nuts, but it is what I do. Once he goes back to his university lab in a few weeks I will become more crazy than normal about when he comes home.

All I can do is my best to stay safe.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
13. Tell me about it. they spread it everywhere,
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:43 PM
May 2020

and I haven't seen my moms in weeks, cause I don't want to kill her.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Your procedures are almost identical to ours.
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:45 PM
May 2020

I am the one who goes out and my wife stays home.

We spray everything; wash my clothes and I shower each trip.

Also I wear a hat and face shield in addition to the mask.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
10. Well, sheltering at home in a city as densely populated as NYC--
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:34 PM
May 2020

is probably like walking freely in a small town.

Shared HVAC systems with 500 other people in that building-- everyone is sharing the air.

But it would have been much worse if they were also out jostling on the sidewalk every day and interacting with an entire other set of people in an office building.

I'm glad the state has good leadership that considers the evidence and makes decisions based on that.

Philostopher

(4,465 posts)
16. Could be food or groceries, or other deliveries
Thu May 7, 2020, 02:49 PM
May 2020

It survives on surfaces for a time, depending on the surface. Even if you never leave home, it's possible (though unlikely) to have contact via items coming in from outside the home.

lettucebe

(2,337 posts)
21. Not shocking at all -- if they go out even once, exposure, if they live with others who go out, even
Thu May 7, 2020, 04:01 PM
May 2020

one time, that's more exposure. Just shows it's out there, so stay safe!

DFW

(54,448 posts)
22. "Largely" is probably a VERY relative term in a place like New York City
Thu May 7, 2020, 04:04 PM
May 2020

My daughter lives there, and even if she goes out to pick up a pizza, it's almost impossible not to bump into a few dozen people in the process.

genxlib

(5,546 posts)
23. A number of factors here
Thu May 7, 2020, 04:33 PM
May 2020

First and foremost, urban living is a major factor. As others have noted here, there are multitudes more interactions within the building before you even get to the street. Then in public, it is harder to move about without getting in each other's spaces.

But extending that further, urban spaces are more compressed. It isn't practical to buy a months worth of food or a 50 pack of toilet paper in order to hunker down.

It also makes people more inclined to cabin fever. I know if I lived in a studio apartment, I would have a much harder time staying put.

Perhaps most importantly, as the level of infection rises, the chances of infection rise accordingly. Nobody is perfect. We are all exposed to a certain degree whether it be on public surfaces or on delivered groceries. The more infection there is in your environment, the more likely it is that those exposures will result in an infection. You have to behave as if every person, object or surface you encounter is infected. In NYC, that might actually be closer to the truth.

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