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Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:49 PM May 2020

................"Vote as if your skin is not white" One sentence only

(found on the internet..somewhere, someplace?) Sorry, if this is a repeat & has been posted before

.......An interesting sentence to inform others...
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.....Vote as if your skin is not white, your parents needs medical care, your friend is a missing indigenous woman, your spouse is an immigrant, your land is on fire, your son is transgender, your house is flooded, your sister is a victim of gun violence, your brother is gay, your water is unsafe, your daughter is a sexual assault survivor.

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................"Vote as if your skin is not white" One sentence only (Original Post) Stuart G May 2020 OP
Sticking a little racist remark in there against whites, are they? EndlessWire May 2020 #1
And what of the other recommendations in the OP? WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #2
Okay, let's address this. EndlessWire May 2020 #6
"Vote as if your skin is not white" is not a racist remark. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #7
How about we stop trying to jam race into every single discussion Amishman May 2020 #9
Just following the lead of the OP. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #11
How is the original sentiment meadowlander May 2020 #4
No, it's not. EndlessWire May 2020 #5
Er, it's not racist. Solomon May 2020 #8
. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #10
K&R Solly Mack May 2020 #3

EndlessWire

(6,573 posts)
1. Sticking a little racist remark in there against whites, are they?
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

We need to stick together! Put your burden down! Here is our chance to forget about skin color. It does not matter what you are if you are under the yoke of tyranny.

We all know that terrible things have happened in the past. We need to do better, but lumping every white person into a negative category *because their skin is white* and asking them to forget that they are white is nonproductive.

All our skin color is now BLUE.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,472 posts)
2. And what of the other recommendations in the OP?
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:59 PM
May 2020

White people, in the aggregate, tend to vote Republican; particularly white women.

EndlessWire

(6,573 posts)
6. Okay, let's address this.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:36 PM
May 2020

The OP found a single line on the internet, and expanded it to include several other categories. All of that is of interest, particularly gay rights which Trump has enabled to be trashed. The juxtaposition of the reversals still contain a racist remark about white skin. There is just no way around it.

All I'm saying is hey, let's include everyone in our lives and protect each other. Maybe we won't have to pretend we are something else in order to understand why giving up prejudice against what amounts to simple differences in our individual beings would be a good thing.

We are ALL going to be slaves to Trump if we don't defeat him.

I have watched my individual attitudes erode throughout the last 2 - 3 years to where I am experiencing the same sad-but-true anger against those that voted for Trump as everyone else. But, it has nothing to do with the color of their skin. It has to do with their ignorance.

Where did you get your stat that the aggregate of white people tend to vote Republican?? In particularly, white women??

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,472 posts)
7. "Vote as if your skin is not white" is not a racist remark.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:48 PM
May 2020

Race strongly correlates with voting preferences in election after election. White voters tend to vote Republican. Black voters overwhelmingly do not.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
9. How about we stop trying to jam race into every single discussion
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:56 PM
May 2020

It's needlessly divisive and counterproductive

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,472 posts)
11. Just following the lead of the OP.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:02 PM
May 2020

This country was built on white supremacy. Recognizing that is vital if we want lasting change.

meadowlander

(4,411 posts)
4. How is the original sentiment
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:08 PM
May 2020

"lumping every white person into a negative category"?

It's saying "imagine what you would do if you were not white". It's not making any claims about "all white people act in a certain way or believe a certain thing".

You could just as easily say "what would you do if you were white in a country where the majority of people, and almost all of those in power, were not white?"

It's a question about the power dynamics not the specific qualities of any particular race.

EndlessWire

(6,573 posts)
5. No, it's not.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:20 PM
May 2020

It absolutely implies a negative viewpoint of white skin. It is just as racist as anything said against black skin, or any other color skin.

Prejudice is a two-way street. To hold a prejudice like this is to carry a burden that you don't need. All humans would be healthier and happier if they would lay this burden down and give it up. Just leave it by the side of the road and move on.

We are watching the destruction of our country, a country that has never been perfect, but we had made inroads on this issue and were at least a little bit better. Along comes Trump, and now the dialogue is this dismal, 40s and 50s-style crapola. I submit that the push back against this should include an END to all this ignorant posturing between the races.

You don't need to imagine anything against yourself. Just imagine that your neighbor will help you the same way that you will help him. We will stick together no matter what.

I'm not saying to forget the wrongs done. But continuing this generations-long hatred is not productive. It's better to include everyone positively in the trenches.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,472 posts)
10. .
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:58 PM
May 2020
It absolutely implies a negative viewpoint of white skin. It is just as racist as anything said against black skin, or any other color skin.
No. It recognizes that if a white person votes, they're more likely to vote Republican. If a black person votes, they're overwhelmingly more likely to vote Democrat. That observation is not racist.

Prejudice is a two-way street. To hold a prejudice like this is to carry a burden that you don't need. All humans would be healthier and happier if they would lay this burden down and give it up. Just leave it by the side of the road and move on.
But how easy that sounds! Unfortunately, race-based prejudice is baked into the foundation of this country even before it was a country, and simply deciding to not "hold prejudice" anymore does nothing to actively dismantle the systems that sustain those oppressions.

We are watching the destruction of our country, a country that has never been perfect, but we had made inroads on this issue and were at least a little bit better. Along comes Trump, and now the dialogue is this dismal, 40s and 50s-style crapola. I submit that the push back against this should include an END to all this ignorant posturing between the races.
You keep talking like this "posturing" and "crapola" is balanced, equal, a both-sides type of thing, when in reality, the United States is a white hegemony. Refusing to acknowledge that helps no one.

You don't need to imagine anything against yourself. Just imagine that your neighbor will help you the same way that you will help him. We will stick together no matter what.
Trying to understand other people's experiences is an important part of building empathy. Telling people to imagine their neighbor will help them is, in many cases, simply insulting.

I'm not saying to forget the wrongs done. But continuing this generations-long hatred is not productive. It's better to include everyone positively in the trenches.
Again, recognizing that white people tend to vote Republican is not hatred.
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