concern anyone but him?

People point out the fact that he's German. Does that hurt all German people?

There is, however, against fat people -- often thinly covered with a nod and a wink and fake concern.

systematically oppressed. Someone stating fact that I am a woman does not oppress me.

I object when leaders help build an atmosphere of acceptance around using immutable traits as some kind of political gotcha, as it makes things much harder for everyday people who have those traits, and affects those in power little to not at all.

Pelosi knew exactly what she was doing, as evidenced by the glee with which people jumped on and doubled down on her comments.

racism implies some endemic power advantage that the purveyor has over the target

Rump is the literal embodiment of power in the US, a rich (supposedly) old white male who holds the most powerful office on the planet

and I absolutely do not concede to your entire framing

it is at heart, a fail, an attempt to try and drag your personal issues into a discussion and make it universal

Pelosi did NOT fat shame, she simply stated a fact, morbidly obese people are at risk for a plethora of health issues

also, I am a thorough believer in the old adage of 'live by the sword, die by the sword'

Rump weaponises actual fat shaming on a massive basis, he is a pure hypocrite

he IS a fat fucking piece of shit, sloppy and pathetic in his lifestyle choices, yet tries to call others this as well in a pathetic power-play attempt

this entire colloquy is full of false equivalency, dodgy, contrived outrage, and 'they go low, we go high' defeatist tosh

punch back, HARD, or suffer the results of ceding the offensive to the fucker

When Obama was president, his blackness was a hindrance in a racist culture. A culture that hates fat people, which American culture certainly does, will hate Trump because he's fat, and focusing on hating him because he's fat perpetuates the culture of hating all fat people simply because they're fat.

so much projection and obfuscation

especially the ludicrous

understand is that habits matter more than size. Studies have found that anywhere from 30 to 75% of people who meet the definition of "obese" are metabolically healthy. A recent study found that unfit lean people were twice as likely to get diabetes as fit fat people. But our healthcare system and our culture love to attach moral worth to size, and make it a personal problem that's fixable and worth mocking, and that hurts everyone.

Thanks for sticking with me through the discussion.

Info taken from this article.

taking a drug that is not cleared for use against Covid is not fat shaming. It is mentioning a health risk he is also deals with while encouraging others to engage in risky behavior. It is part of a discussion about whether or not what he claims to be doing is safe.
I agree that calling Trump fat is not useful but mentioning a complicating fact that makes what he is encouraging others to do even more unsafe doesn't seem like it should be off limits.

do so on the basis of his weight. I really don't see much of that, relatively.

I do get the point, however. We should be above that, plus there's 1M better reasons to put the guy down.

That much is true.

a photo.

And anyways, for sure on DU we criticize the guy for all the other things the author names as 'important things' WAY WAY WAY more often and vigorously.

Perhaps for one reason or another every time you see weight-based comments made, it sticks out to you in a way that the deluge of other complaints ... do not?

The gist of this article is that all people are focused on WRT IQ45 is bashing his weight. That's garbage, IMHO.

I guess it never happened, according to the below link, but it makes for a good story.

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/did-william-howard-taft-really-get-stuck-in-a-bathtub

Father Pence still looks healthy enough.

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Seriously, I hope Biden campaign HQ has people making plans for a Biden campaign against Mike Pence in case no. 45 flat-lines.

He has a bright future on "The Biggest Loser".

It's not cool to insult someone's body. Unless you really don't like them.

:rolleyes:

was specific to how trump, an extremely thin skinned narcissist, would likely be triggered.

By the way, what's the point of internalizing comments that are made, not to you, but to the absolute worst, most vile American president in modern history?

There’s no “point” to internalizing such hateful comments. It’s that the message of that is clear: if you are fat, you are worthy of ridicule and disgust. If I don’t insult you, it’s because I am being polite.

Would we ever except such a sorry ass excuse for racial slurs? Or misogynistic rhetoric? No, of course not. It’s like insulting some person by calling them a stupid pol$&, but then telling your polish friend, “oh, I don’t mean YOU.” Too late, we know what you think of Poles.

... I'm personally offended when Trump is called stupid, accurate or not.

Edit: And the proper term is "moran" anyway.