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Cary

(11,746 posts)
Thu May 28, 2020, 10:33 AM May 2020

What is the nevertRumper future?

Rick Wilson. Bill Kristol. Steve Schmidt. ...

Such talent! And they are so right about Orange Hitler.

If they revert back to dishonesty, that would be a shame. I don't see them ever putting anything back together and if they go back to idiotic bumper sticker slogans like "limited government" I will lose all respect for them. I would like to see them continue to evolve somehow.

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What is the nevertRumper future? (Original Post) Cary May 2020 OP
I'm okay with them being useful till November-- dawg day May 2020 #1
I never hear them condemn their lies Cary May 2020 #2
Republican Civil War philf99 May 2020 #3
I personally would relish it CanonRay May 2020 #4
The Repuke party needs to fracture and break up. roamer65 May 2020 #7
Useful idiots sellitman May 2020 #5
Nicole Wallace is no longer a NeverTrumper obamanut2012 May 2020 #6
There is no GOP for them to return to. SoonerPride May 2020 #8
It will become mainly a rural racist party. roamer65 May 2020 #9
Those three? Back to normal as soon as they possibly can. JHB May 2020 #10
I hear you Cary May 2020 #11
That's okay-- if they revert after dawg day May 2020 #12

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. I'm okay with them being useful till November--
Thu May 28, 2020, 10:46 AM
May 2020

Then going away. Of course, they probably won't go away.

It would be interesting to hear more about what they realize about "conservatism" (I do think they're right-- Trump and his Trumpist-GOP party isn't at all conservative) and their own tactics in the past, if they take some blame for it.

Rick Wilson does, but he does it in an arrogant way, like he has to school Democrats on what works-- "Sure, it's evil and deceptive, but it worked, didn't it?"

But you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.... for the moment.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
2. I never hear them condemn their lies
Thu May 28, 2020, 10:57 AM
May 2020

Willie Horton. Welfare queen. WMD in Iraq. Birtherism. "Supply-side economics." The Southern Strategy. Iran-Contra. Outing a NOF CIA agent. They don't condemn Citizens United or the Koch brothers.

They think Orange Hitler was beamed aboard out of nowhere by aliens.

They have backed off of their irrational loathing of liberals but I still feel it from them.

philf99

(238 posts)
3. Republican Civil War
Thu May 28, 2020, 11:02 AM
May 2020

Assuming a trump loss, I believe we will see a Republican Civil War between the magats and never trumpers

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
7. The Repuke party needs to fracture and break up.
Thu May 28, 2020, 12:21 PM
May 2020

That should be our goal as Democrats to help push that process along to its completion.

It is for the good of the country that it breaks up.

That is why I gave money to the Lincoln Project.

obamanut2012

(26,164 posts)
6. Nicole Wallace is no longer a NeverTrumper
Thu May 28, 2020, 12:17 PM
May 2020

I doubt she will vote GOP again. I think Ana Navarro still has a way to go, but I would term her a ConservaDEm now, and she voted for HRC, although she dislikes the Clintons very much.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
8. There is no GOP for them to return to.
Thu May 28, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

They are defacto Dems from now on.

The GOP is the trump party. It will be even more racist and vile than it even is now.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
9. It will become mainly a rural racist party.
Thu May 28, 2020, 12:26 PM
May 2020

Rural areas are declining population wise, so it base will shrink even more.

Drawback is that it will become more virulent and extremist.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
10. Those three? Back to normal as soon as they possibly can.
Thu May 28, 2020, 12:27 PM
May 2020

As soon as Trump's out, they'll do their level best to paint it as an orange-swan event.

Don't doubt that for a minute. There are a very small number of NTs that will leave the GOP for good, but most will go right back to the very things they were doing before: feeding the malleable base that loved Trump.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
12. That's okay-- if they revert after
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:19 PM
May 2020

We won't need them after that. Trump and about half his base will stomp off trashing the GOP as they go, and there won't be much left. They can spend a few decades rebuilding what's left, and the Democrats can run things until the GOP is capable of mounting a competitive campaign in 2040.

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