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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,335 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:06 PM May 2020

Mike Pence Gets A Blunt Reminder After 'Let Their Voices Be Heard' Tweet

Twitter users took Vice President Mike Pence to task on Friday over his tweets about the death of George Floyd ― an unarmed Black man who died on Monday in Minneapolis after a police officer knelt on his neck ― and the protests that have since spread across the country.

“We have no tolerance for racism in America. We have no tolerance for violence inspired by racism,” Pence wrote in one tweet, adding in another: “We condemn violence against property or persons. We will always stand for the right of Americans to peacefully protest and let their voices be heard.”


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Many critics accused Pence of hypocrisy, noting how he walked out of an NFL game between the Indianapolis Colts and the San Francisco 49ers in 2017 in protest of the 49ers players who took a knee during the national anthem.

The athletes were powerfully yet peacefully protesting police brutality and systemic racial injustice, following the lead of former 49er Colin Kaepernick.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mike-pence-george-floyd-tweet-backlash-063652077.html
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Mike Pence Gets A Blunt Reminder After 'Let Their Voices Be Heard' Tweet (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP
Kapenick was ahead of his time and a fair warning uponit7771 May 2020 #1
My memory is going back to 1968 Mexico City. CaptYossarian May 2020 #20
one notes he had to insert a toadie reference to his higher power, donald trump nt msongs May 2020 #2
+1 ProfessorGAC May 2020 #9
Trump tells law enforcement: 'Don't be too nice' with suspects (2017) TomCADem May 2020 #14
A game he went to with... lame54 May 2020 #3
Exactly. It was a photo op. LisaM May 2020 #6
Pence equates property and people in his tweet. Laelth May 2020 #4
Not equal: property comes first Retrograde May 2020 #5
So he claims. Laelth May 2020 #11
"Not equal: property comes first" pazzyanne May 2020 #17
Good catch EarlG May 2020 #8
I have heard "wanton destruction" of property. Laelth May 2020 #12
After watching Ali Velshi for a while this morning RVN VET71 May 2020 #18
And Ali Velshi was just one of the journalists RVN VET71 May 2020 #19
Yep. Fox sux. Laelth May 2020 #21
Oh, NOW he wants to see peaceful protests EarlG May 2020 #7
Hoisted high on his own petard. Solomon May 2020 #10
+1 n/t Laelth May 2020 #13
No tolerance for violence against human capital stock and other property. nt Xipe Totec May 2020 #15
All Of Pence's White Churches Demanding Justice For George Floyd And The Arrest Of Murdering Cops DanieRains May 2020 #16
Sad, isn't it............. MyOwnPeace May 2020 #23
These two stories go together keithbvadu2 May 2020 #22

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
20. My memory is going back to 1968 Mexico City.
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:10 PM
May 2020

Even though this crap has been happening for almost 400 years.

White people don't play well with others.

Pence reminds me of the student who says teacher-pleasing words, but the teacher knows they're still a rotten bastard.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
14. Trump tells law enforcement: 'Don't be too nice' with suspects (2017)
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:39 PM
May 2020

It is pretty rich the idea that Trump would take any steps to curb police brutality.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/29/trump-tells-law-enforcement-dont-too-nice-suspects/522220001/

Trump vowed the administration would continue to go after the gang and he appeared to encourage law enforcement to be more violent in handling suspects.

“When you see these towns and when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, and I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,’ “ Trump told the audience of law enforcement officers at Suffolk County Community College in Brentwood, N.Y.

“Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head, I said, ‘You can take the hand away, OK?’ “


Advocates who work with immigrants and who promote human rights said the comments advocated divisiveness and hate.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Pence equates property and people in his tweet.
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:27 PM
May 2020

That’s what bugs me most about it.

He says “We condemn violence against property and persons.” This tells me a lot about how he thinks.

“Violence” implies bodily harm—intentional, painful injury against a living being—blood, wounds, possible death. One can not commit an act of “violence” against property. The property can’t feel the pain. The property can’t lose its life. The property has no inherent, Constitutional rights.

Pence, evidently, thinks that people and property are equal. He doesn’t understand the law. The law holds that people are more valuable than property, no matter what he thinks.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. So he claims.
Sun May 31, 2020, 04:30 PM
May 2020

Good catch, though, on the fact that he lists property BEFORE people in his tweet.

-Laelth

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
17. "Not equal: property comes first"
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:52 PM
May 2020

With tRump and Pence and ilk, it is always money before "human capital stock".

EarlG

(21,984 posts)
8. Good catch
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:59 PM
May 2020

I noticed a CNN reporter the other night — can’t remember where it was — talking about the high levels of “violence” he was witnessing. Property damage was occurring, but neither police nor protesters were fighting or otherwise injuring each other. Calling it “violence” didn’t sound quite right.

(To be fair, CNNs coverage has been *really* good overall, but one or two of the reporters have sounded a bit like they’re more concerned about the state of the local Starbucks than anything else.)

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. I have heard "wanton destruction" of property.
Sun May 31, 2020, 04:44 PM
May 2020

But the words “violence” and “property” don’t go together in English.

I agree that CNN’s coverage has been good so far.

Thank you for the reply.

-Laelth

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
18. After watching Ali Velshi for a while this morning
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:57 PM
May 2020

I switched to Fox to see how they were framing the events around the country in the aftermath of George Floyd's murder.

It was all about property damage. About burned out police vans, broken store front windows. Nothing about the protests or the evidence that there were people from out of town who appeared in the night to start fires and cause destruction -- and then disappeared into the shadows.

Of course, they later talked about antifa. Not a word about police agents provocateur or the Boogie Bois (or whatever the hell those rodents call themselves) who may well have been present and fomenting -- or trying to -- violence and destruction.

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
19. And Ali Velshi was just one of the journalists
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:59 PM
May 2020

who had been targeted and shot by police during the night. Nothing on Fox about that, or about the family that was shot at while standing on their front porch, or the protester in Denver shot at in a literal "drive-by" by the police.

EarlG

(21,984 posts)
7. Oh, NOW he wants to see peaceful protests
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:52 PM
May 2020
Washington(CNN) Vice President Mike Pence left a football game between the Indianapolis Colts and the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday after some players knelt during the National Anthem, saying he did not want to "dignify" the demonstration.

"I left today's Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem," Pence wrote on Twitter.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/08/politics/vice-president-mike-pence-nfl-protest/index.html

These fuckers are just UNBELIEVABLE.
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
16. All Of Pence's White Churches Demanding Justice For George Floyd And The Arrest Of Murdering Cops
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:49 PM
May 2020

Oh. Forgot what reality I was in....

Nevermind.

MyOwnPeace

(16,946 posts)
23. Sad, isn't it.............
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:29 PM
May 2020

but please be sure to know that you're talking about "Pence's" churches (MANY churches are WELL on the other side of the "religion" that Pence seems to practice.............)

keithbvadu2

(36,984 posts)
22. These two stories go together
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:22 PM
May 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213514430
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213514979

Mike Pence Gets A Blunt Reminder After 'Let Their Voices Be Heard' Tweet

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mike-pence-george-floyd-tweet-backlash-063652077.html
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George Floyd’s brother says Trump ‘kept pushing me off’ during phone call

Philonise Floyd says president dismissed him during a phone conversation - he ‘didn’t give me a chance to even speak’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/george-floyd-brother-philonise-floyd-trump-phone-call
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