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Stuart G

(38,414 posts) Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:23 PM Jul 2020

About the republican party being destoryed. An historical perspective - 1972

...I was young and smart and knew everything:

..Actually I knew very little about very little. That year I worked for George McGovern, and I worked very hard. I wrote position papers for the Illinois McGovern chairman, worked the streets & went door to door. I even got some old McGovern political pamphlets..yes from 72..(would you like one?)
..Anyway it was quite an experience, and the day the votes were counted I was terribly dismayed. What is going to happen to our party and our beliefs?. George McGovern won one state, (Mass) & Nixon won the rest.

..Electoral votes: Nixon 520,.........McGovern 49
Popular vote.........47,100,000 ....29,100,000

..I thought it was the destruction of the Democratic Party..I was wrong. It was not the destruction of our party,
it was a one time horrible campaign by McGovern, & good campaign by the incumbent Nixon. Watergate was
still a minor break in that had little to go on. I remember talking to some people and one fellow slammed the door when I mentioned, "Watergate."...

We lost so bad, that I were sure we would never win again. We did win 4 years later (1976) with Jimmy Carter.

What is the point about this. The republican party will not be destroyed by a single loss. There is lots and lots of money there, and republicans will take this loss, and the blame will go where it belongs: to Donald Trump.
No one knows what will happen in the future....Anything can happen and already has.
......( This is just a perspective of 2020 looking back at 72) ...

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About the republican party being destoryed. An historical perspective - 1972 (Original Post) Stuart G Jul 2020 OP

As long as we have tens of millions of people who are rabidly racist, rabidly misogynist Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #1

Republicans I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #2

Yes, there will always be ..."an equivalent to the republican party around." Stuart G Jul 2020 #5

Yes, I have not thought the looming debacle would end the Repubs but I think they Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #3

The problem for the GOP D_Master81 Jul 2020 #4

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)

1. As long as we have tens of millions of people who are rabidly racist, rabidly misogynist

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:25 PM

Jul 2020

and who want Women executed, minorities arrested and deported, we will not see the end of this despicable party.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)

2. Republicans

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:35 PM

Jul 2020

Are the narcissist,authoritarian and sociopath party.

And as long as these sorts of personalities exist and can form cliques to band together to harm and screw with people's lives there will be an equivalent to the republican party around.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)

5. Yes, there will always be ..."an equivalent to the republican party around."

Reply to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:46 PM

Jul 2020

..I totally agree. And also, there will always be an equivalent to the democratic party around. This is the way that politics have been for a long time..The names change, but the results are the same. Something people don't know, but the Republican Party of 1900, of Theodor Roosevelt, who was president then..was not today's republican party.
.. Roosevelt was liberal, and passed a great advance in laws called, "The Pure Food and Drug Laws"...after the publishing of a book called, "The Jungle" written by Upton Sinclair, about horrific conditions in meat packing plants in Chicago..Those laws were the beginning of government examination and regulation of food before sale & packing in order to protect the consumer..

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)

3. Yes, I have not thought the looming debacle would end the Repubs but I think they

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:37 PM

Jul 2020

... I think they will spend a longer time in the wilderness and have a tremendous amount of soul searching to do.

All their tropes and memes and slogans will have reduced power for years to come.

Chances are fairly good that if the Democrats govern well and navigate some tricky waters (climate change, China, fixing wealth & income disparity), then they are likely to have the Presidency for 12 or 16 years.

Perhaps the biggest agenda item will be to reform elections, campaigning and voting to greatly reduce trickery and gerrymandering and voter suppression. It can be done and must be done. That will go along way to tilt power away from Republicons and make the votes more reflective of true demographics.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)

4. The problem for the GOP

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:42 PM

Jul 2020

I foresee that the problem for Republicans is that this wouldn’t be a one time thing. The last 3 GOP presidents are going to end in disaster: Bush, Bush, Trump. Demographics and messaging has been trending away from the GOP for years. I truly believe had we run anyone else Trump wouldn’t be President. The GOP will always remain strong in rural areas of the country and have a decent chance at congressional control. But as a national brand, after trump it is badly broken.

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