...how about some context so we know why his diarrhea from 2013-2014 is being posted?

The usual. On a site for supporting the election of Democrats!

Very recent past.

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That's it. The context and the point.


And in case you haven't noticed he's posted here all the time, some might even say he's fawned over.


This is a reminder as to who he really is. And that is the reason.


So there you have it. The reason, the context and the point. Rick Wilson is trash.

Rick Wilson and some repubs like him know that.

They know we will turn into a dictatorship if we have 4 more years of this.

But we don't need the help of scumbags like Rick Wilson to do that.


That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it whether it's popular around here or not.

But, we should have wiped the floor with Trump in 2016 and look how well that went.

We most certainly need the help of scumbags like Rick Wilson.

The Lincoln Project is hitting trump where it hurts and your posts have convinced me that it is time to make another donation to the Lincoln project

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Therefore, we at DU are all conservatives too! Oh, melman. It's not going to happen.

But right now, he's our asshole fighting the fight we must win.

Once Joe Biden puts his hand on the Bible and is sworn in, we can all jump into our opposing trenches and resume fire.

Until then, we need to keep our eye on the only prize that matters--saving the frigging country.

However you will never convince those so firmly fixed in ideology.

Imagine if the British and Americans refused to fight Hitler with Stalin, because he was a murderous communist dictator ?

This is one of the times that the short term aims of Democrats and Never Trumpers align. Beat Trump, nothing else matters.

That would be harder to excuse. I don’t think we’re going into opposing trenches right away. They either stay or work on rebuilding a Republican Party that is burned to the ground.

Chances are we are stuck with these guys long term. Hopefully they learn to play ball on the big issues. That means we don’t want to hear from them about abortions. They support equality across the board, support sensible gun laws, etc. and most importantly, don’t be an embarrassment.

by those leading the right as a way to generate heat and money. If they are ever to move on and change their political position on the left right scale, they will need to soften because the American people in general have moved towards the center on those two issues especially.

It’s easy to claim that gun violence has changed their views.

most people over after all the slaughter. And abortion will be way harder but I don't think they can get back to their Lincoln Conservatism party or whatever, until they take the sting out of this issue too. It's been too easy for too long, for republicans to be riled up by 'They are coming to take your guns, or they'll force your wife to have an abortion' lies.

and elect Joe Biden. The enemy of our enemy....

consultant in 2013. No surprise he’s a gun lover. Seeing as how The Lincoln Project is having an impact in the purple states we need to win the electoral college and in red states and seeing as how they don’t have anything to with Democratic policy positions, I’ll take that help.

By the way , Bernie supporters didn’t seem to have a problem with Joe Rogan, who’s a racist, misogynistic piece of shit so I’ll take this with a grain of salt.

Sowing anger NOW over his past as a Republican operative-- when he is now helping DEMS-- is really counterproductive and I just wonder....

I had to wait quite a number of hours for a civil response to come to me

I must be trying to "divide and conquer" when I'm the one that has problems with this Republican piece of shit.

Just wonderful!

I don't like racist Republicans.

If that makes me a bad guy then I guess I'm just a bad guy.

as hell. (not to mention divisive)... If that is not your intent, perhaps you might rethink.

And no, your self-sanctifying fools no one.

Republican trash to be specific.


And I don't buy the idea that it's divisive to say so. At all.

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....and Rick Wilson in particular, we're all just as bad as all those republicans and Rick Wilson.

It's guilt by not-even association.

And there's the implication that because Republicans went all in on Trump, that Democrats are somehow going to be tainted in accepting help from the Lincoln Project. It's the sort of ideological strait jacket that made the Bernie Bros (or Bernie or Bust-ers) unwilling to see that Hillary was a far better candidate that Trump, and in a binary contest, the right thing to do is to support the better candidate.

Those in the Lincoln Project (largely) are Republicans who want to see a new conservative party rise from the ashes of the Republican Party. They couldn't have made it plainer that they won't be joining the Democratic Party. There are some, like Kurt Bardella, who was a Republican but joined the Democratic Party 2 years ago and others like progressive pollster Rachel Bitecofer, who is advising them.

They have to "pure"

I love this ad

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Everyone knows he has a Conservative resume including being an asshole on many issues that matter to us.

That is exactly why it matters that he is rejecting Trump. His voice carries weight with voters that would reject anything that we have to say. Such defections mean more than 100 liberal pundits hammering away at Trump.

And he happens to be good at it. I am happy to have his considerable talents aimed towards the other side. If nothing else, it allows us to take the high road and better target our own efforts.

The only place i draw the line is with any suggestion of payback to them. We don’t owe them anything. No platform language, no cabinet positions, no pet policy issues. Nothing. They are doing this for their country and to assuage their own guilt. To their credit, I have never heard any of them even suggest anything like that.

shouldn't be difficult to see why people would hate Trump.

It has nothing to do with guilt, with wanting anything in return.

They hate him and want him gone like many other people do.

hate Trump, they hate Trumpism. And in spite of their conservatism, they want Dems to retake the Senate because they want Trumpism to go down in flames so it can not rise again, and in the future legislators will remember what happens to enablers.

That takes a lot, to fight for that even though it means giving full legislative power to enact policies you have fought against your whole life and career.

Country over party, and proving it in spectacular fashion.

...payback of any kind. All they want is to get trump out of office. After January 20 they're our "enemy" again, and I'm sure they know and expect that.

They are skilled and amusing, but I don't trust a single one of them.

By all means I will support TLP if they are still fighting Trumpism

Bill Kristol, et al.?

and the rest I agree with wholeheartedly.

What's the problem?

....but we and the UK welcomed their support in WWII against the Nazis and Japan.

This is war, and I welcome every bit of help we get to defeat trump. We can nitpick ideology after Joe Biden takes office.

I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."

on the Eastern Front, I wonder how many Americans and Brits were "concerned" about his politics.

We have a 5 alarm emergency for the country in Trump and his incompetence. If Wilson helps us oust him, I’ll take it.

what are you trying to say? What's your point with this post? I still am thankful that the Lincoln Project is at least trying to show that all Republicans are not mindless, maskless idiots.

People who enjoy attacking the Lincoln Project are engaging in a not-so-subtle pastime of letting others know how pure they are. It's not unique to this web site, I've seen it elsewhere on the Internet and on Facebook and Twitter.

All I'm saying is that from what I've observed, the overall goal appears to be one that involves showboating about their own pure morality while at the same time they are busy insulting others and dragging others down. It's divisive, demeaning, denigrating and bullying behavior. The message from those who do such things can be summed up thusly: "Nah-nah! Look at me! I'm better than you because I'm pure, you're not, you suck! Nyaaaah!"

It's just as annoying as that bratty kid, Stilwell, from the movie "A League of Their Own"

it does seem that way still. But what do I know

Rick Wilson's past is immaterial. One can bring up the past of a lot of people up -- David Sirota, Nina Turner and Brihana Joy Grey come to mind.

Then there is the "Biden and I wouldn't be in the same party" thing.

Winning in 2020 is all that matters and thus it remains the key word.

I find this a foolish trip down a rabbit hole.
A solution in search of an immediate problem.

He will fight against us, within that system, on any number of issues.

But right now, he's is standing up for core American values. And I'm happy to stand with him.

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I live in the here and now.

We have a Nazi in the White House and Rick Wilson is doing a lot to change that.

How are you doing?

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I started a private Facebook group to support them. It's growing quickly.

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How about you, melman?

This makes me smile

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wouldn't want that?!

TY Goth

in American history à la the JFK assassination, 9/11, etc - and people can change dramatically after such events.

Politics is also a street fight where ugliness often works. Wilson/Schmidt et al were GOP henchmen and their past views/actions can be viewed in that light. They were paid to do a job and they did it.

Basically the Never Trumpers working for our side now is like Operation Paperclip - in WWII where the US retained the services of former Nazi scientists, many of whom were involved in terrible things but who then were brought over to work for 'the good side'.

If Rick Wilson wants to help us defeat Trump, then great. Same with Steve Schmidt, Nicole Wallace, David Frum, and others. I'll often see people here cast them aside: "Ugh, Steve Schmidt is a Republican. Can't trust him."

But sometimes we should be gracious and just accept help. If they help turn moderate opinion against Trump, then why jeopardize that goodwill in the meantime? Democrats don't have to accept the Lincoln Project's underlying Republican ideology or incorporate it into policy just because they used the Lincoln Project for an electoral advantage when it counted.

He's a highly skilled asshole on OUR side this time. I'll take that. We can return to lambasting him in January.

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nobody is mistaken about who he is but as he is responsible for helping put these people in office let him help take them out.

once everything is said and done. If this goat fucker is removed from the White House. I'll gladly say: "Thank you. Welcome to humanity. Now feel free to take your ideas about foreign affairs, economics, history, racial dynamics, etc., back to your piece of shit party and see what you can do with that.".

Senator Box Turtle is going to be very unhappy. This will be fun to watch

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SMDH

In politics, an enemy of an enemy is friend.

All these anti TLP posts are POINTLESS!

(and as another DUer said, predictable)

Just my two cents