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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor the second time in our history many southern states are committing self-slaughter.
During the civil war they destroyed themselves following propaganda. Today they are destroying themselves following propaganda.
The southern states are heading for an inconceivable health crisis. Their hospitals are being overwhelmed. Their leaders are fools who are following a fool in the white house. Many southern states need to be shut down and that is not going to happen.
In an ironic twist, the only thing that may save the southern states is a Democratic president. I believe southern states like Florida, Georgia, and maybe Texas could vote for Biden. In order to save their lives.
It must be horrifying for Democrats, the sane, who live in these states.
bullimiami
(13,114 posts)niyad
(113,930 posts)ananda
(28,905 posts)Full-blown
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Are turning these states bluer every day they speak, tweet, or do what trump wants them to do. Both Florida and Texas are disaster zones and they're talking about opening schools up? The disasters are these people , and I predict they'll never be elected to office again for this.
ashredux
(2,612 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,490 posts)The Death Cult could circle the Jesus wagon train, accept the pandemic as God's will, and see salvation when Trump tells them "it's going away".
Or science could prevail for those still able to reason logically. Either way an overwhelming vote margin will be needed to balance oppression, purges, poll place shenanigans, and unforeseen cheating expertise.
The courts and the media still function. Hard to see how Trump could close those windows by November, but hey he's tried everything else. Close all public airwaves to prevent panic and ask foreign dictators how to supress publications. Clog the courts with appeals.
Personally, if I were the Democratic Party, I'd focus my resources on 3-5 most likely states to flip blue, and lawyer up.
Don't count me pessimistic. We will win this. But we should call the plumber to disconnect all faucets because the kitchen sink hurling team will need to be at the ready.
gab13by13
(21,494 posts)This is the first Civil War where the rebels are killing themselves.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,512 posts)No mask order in place in our county, clueless idiots act like nothing is out of the ordinary.
tavernier
(12,416 posts)Miami is compliant as well for the most part, Ive heard from my friends up there, although all of those cities get travelers this time of the year who just want to party.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It's going to hit the southern states bad. Not that they won't be livable in different ways, but decline in economies and quality of life as fewer people and businesses want to locate here is expected.
Self-induced destruction by @2/3 of residents, just like the pandemic holocaust, though.
certainot
(9,090 posts)by limbaugh and fed by rw think tanks in the US and russia
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)it will be sad if limbaugh dies before getting 'credit' for killing thousands because a pack of dumbshits took medical advice from the same demented habitual liar who told millions smoking doesn't cause cancer and is now dying of lung cancer
dlk
(11,601 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)Not Louisiana! We have a Democratic Governor, John Bel Edwards, who kept us from being Mississippi, Florida, and Arizona. And our Republican state legislators? Demonstrating to not wear masks like morons.
You think one Democrat isnt important? John Bel Edwards has singularly fought the likes of Steve Scalise, John Aw Shucks Kennedy, and Don Trump of Louisiana citizens.
And we have Medicaid expansion and We defeated a Mardi Gras group infection.
Thanks to everyone for not referring to us here as southern states.
New Orleans and Louisiana is a country all by itself.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)ms liberty
(8,626 posts)On stupid. All those yankees didn't go home and shelter in place. They went to Fla, NC, and SC to the beaches.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But this is a favorite narrative of the OP.
Never mind the spikes in other states that are not in the south; he apparently can't see those.
NC has a Dem governor, shut us down early, and postponed the next phase. Unfortunately, any state in any region is at risk depending on the states surrounding it, never mind all the visitors from other places.
ms liberty
(8,626 posts)I just went back to work Monday on a mostly work from home/staggered office schedule, but full time thank goodness; my employer had closed at the end of March. I am so glad we have Gov. Cooper right now. I was lucky that I had very few issues getting unemployment set up and started, and it was a lifesaver. I'm going back to work without the strain of having a pile of bills demanding my immediate attention and stressing me out. I feel like he's done a really good job, and the last PPP poll (about 6/23) bore out my opinion. I was polled in it, so I was tickled to see I was in the majority on all the questions!
It gets old, all the south bashing. I had written a much longer, more blunt and to the point reply to the op and deleted it in favor of brevity.The south has its issues but it's not just us, it's the whole country. The cell phone videos we now see all the time prove it; they're from all over.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Cooper has been great. I was working part-time for a county here in the Piedmont when all this started.
It's a red county, but they jumped right on this thing. If they had to put people out of work, they found other ways for them to earn money. I'm retired and decided not to return, but not because of anything they did or didn't do. People seem to following Cooper's mask mandate, which is great.
Yeah, I keep a rough tally on those cell phone videos - the south is really lagging behind some of those other "perfect" states lol!
shockey80
(4,379 posts)Of course all states have their share of idiots. I am talking about what we are all seeing on the news in Texas, Florida, Arizona. They are killing themselves on a large scale.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)You got some skewed geography there, Bub.
How about those cases in CA, MI, numerous other states not in the south?
Doesn't fit your narrative, does it?
NJCher
(35,829 posts)I'll bet the answer can be found in this book:
My two cents worth is that it is mob mentality fueled by trump's lies and refusal to act as a role model in any way (mask) other than as a destructive role model.
You can Google the title of this book and get the table of contents and a decent amount of pages to read in the preview. If it's not too expensive, I may get it.
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)... lot of people killed.
That "second wave" in 1918 came from a vaccine that wasn't tested over time and did not stop the spread of the virus just the bacteria from it.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,518 posts)jayfish
(10,040 posts)a modern day version of Appomattox?
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Let me know when a Southern state has as many cases and/or deaths as New York.
It's a virus, and though we here in the (apparently more enlightened) North did what we could to stem the tide, the sickness and death toll was and is the worst in the country - with Democratic Governors all around.
And yes of course poor Republican leadership will lead to unnecessary infection, but if the average person doesn't do the right thing then even Biden can't 'save their lives' - and believe me when I tell you that here in New Jersey there are plenty of people STILL not doing the right thing even though we were decimated.
I'll take a photo this weekend of my neighbor's usual mask-less weekend get together around their newly opened backyard pool - with at least half of the attendees over 60 - and they're ALL Democrats.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Cuomo referenced the 4th of July parties on Fire Island and other places. NO social distancing, no masks. And yeah, I saw the videos from the Jersey Shore.
I believe the OP is from NY; he was strangely quiet when the refrigerated trucks were busy there.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)we're seeing in some of the Southern, Republican controlled states is that they had two months to prepare for what was coming - and they did nothing - even while watching the destruction that was happening here in the Northeast. In fact, they made it much more likely that when the virus made it's way to them that the welcome mat would be out and ready for it.
So in a sense I agree with the OP but it paints with way too broad a brush.
tinrobot
(10,927 posts)They had to choose this one.