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(5,591 posts)ecstatic
(32,786 posts)Or are we really about to be blocked from seeing information regarding virus deaths, etc?
Frightening, indeed. And still, Mitch does NOTHING to stop it.
Skittles
(153,310 posts)or are those the ones doing the grabbing?
canuckledragger
(1,671 posts)Because, as we all know, Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses. (and that's the way things have ALWAYS been.)
North Shore Chicago
(3,346 posts)DSandra
(999 posts)Democrats and the left have been too weak for too long against the right wing and conservatives, and this monster seems to have been the end result.
Long ago, during war, you either won, or lost and everyone on your side either died or became a slave. It looks like it's coming down to this again...
KPN
(15,677 posts)front. But this is way different. The boil occupying our WH is about to burst and be eradicated. Frightening events maybe, but we will prevail and destroy him and his supporters.
marlakay
(11,536 posts)And reading biography about him he used tactics that current dems won't do. He dug up secrets on senators and threatened them for votes.
canetoad
(17,216 posts)Won/Lost: black/white.
Do you support a violent uprising?
DSandra
(999 posts)We've been way too nice to them, and a lot of people have paid the price for it in suffering and lives lost.
LizBeth
(9,953 posts)Governor Kate Brown
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This political theater from President Trump has nothing to do with public safety. The President is failing to lead this nation. Now he is deploying federal officers to patrol the streets of Portland in a blatant abuse of power by the federal government.
I told Acting Secretary Wolf that the federal government should remove all federal officers from our streets. His response showed me he is on a mission to provoke confrontation for political purposes. He is putting both Oregonians and local law enforcement officers in harms way.
This, coming from the same President who used tear gas to clear out peaceful protesters in Washington, DC to engineer a photo opportunity.
Trump is looking for a confrontation in Oregon in the hopes of winning political points in Ohio or Iowa.
https://katu.com/news/local/acting-homeland-security-secretary-says-portland-has-been-under-siege?fbclid=IwAR1t1Yu3M6ZyBMy7TOdOfMXDg1VPAfWmEKY70sOAX24CgiwHZ2ilHnFeqzc
BigmanPigman
(51,660 posts)Did Barr have a hand in this too?
dchill
(38,617 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,500 posts)Have they been heard from and who are they?
I would also be concerned that some of the "officers" could be part of militant right-wing group, pulling stunts like this to scare protesters in support of Trump.
KY.............
Grokenstein
(5,730 posts)This is from the other thread's linked article:
I am basically tossed into the van, Pettibone said. And I had my beanie pulled over my face so I couldnt see and they held my hands over my head.
Pettibone and OShea both said they couldnt think of anything they might have done to end up targeted by law enforcement. They attend protests regularly but they said they arent instigators. They dont spray paint buildings, shine laser pointers at officers or do anything else other than attend protests, which law enforcement have regularly deemed unlawful assemblies.
Blinded by his hat, in an unmarked minivan full of armed people dressed in camouflage and body armor who hadnt identified themselves, Pettibone said he was driven around downtown before being unloaded inside a building. He wouldnt learn until after his release that he had been inside the federal courthouse.
It was basically a process of facing many walls and corners as they patted me down and took my picture and rummaged through my belongings, Pettibone said. One of them said, This is a whole lot of nothing.
Pettibone said he was put into a cell. Soon after, two officers came in to read him his Miranda rights. They didnt tell him why he was being arrested. He said they asked him if he wanted to waive his rights and answer some questions, but Pettibone declined and said he wanted a lawyer. The interview was terminated, and about 90 minutes later he was released. He said he did not receive any paperwork, citation or record of his arrest.
I just happened to be wearing black on a sidewalk in downtown Portland at the time, Pettibone said. And that apparently is grounds for detaining me.
If this is for real, it's just a trial run for far, far worse.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,500 posts)I hope a group of those arrested can work with the ACLU or some other support organization and take this travesty to court.
KY
Captain Zero
(6,863 posts)Pettibone said he was put into a cell. Soon after, two officers came in to read him his Miranda rights. They didnt tell him why he was being arrested. He said they asked him if he wanted to waive his rights and answer some questions, but Pettibone declined and said he wanted a lawyer. The interview was terminated, and about 90 minutes later he was released. He said he did not receive any paperwork, citation or record of his arrest.
I just happened to be wearing black on a sidewalk in downtown Portland at the time, Pettibone said. And that apparently is grounds for detaining me.
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MY ADDITION: After you are detained for 15 minutes ASK THEM THIS >> I have been detained over 15 minutes. Why am I being detained? After a few more minutes repeat this and ask if you are under arrest or are you free to leave? Start asking for names, agencies and ranks of detaining officers. Ask: If I am under arrest, I have a right to know the charge. If you don't have a charge am I free to go? It will speed up their processes. Don't answer ANY questions. Say no I want a lawyer, and I want to know the charges in writing on letterhead.
ffr
(22,681 posts)Hope the 77,000 who made the difference not to vote for Hillary are proud of themselves tonight, yet again, to all that they have fostered.
DSandra
(999 posts)Especially in battleground states.
Yes they had issues with Hillary, but by them not voting for her, they essentially joined the Trumpers in burning down this country. Just because a candidate does not put you in first place doesn't mean that you should press the self destruct button.
Cha
(298,049 posts)Cha
(298,049 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,719 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)That judges rule to let his taxes be exposed so we can determine if this is from trump , or really done for putin. The longer they allow him to hide who is behind these policies , the more destruction of our way of life will be destroyed.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)DSandra
(999 posts)And by the direction early on of using demagogue tactics, one should've known that Trump was looking to Hitler has his inspiration.
Champp
(2,114 posts)The very essence of evil.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,657 posts)malaise
(269,295 posts)This is his private army
Kaleva
(36,403 posts)How do they know the cars are rentals? Have missing persons reports been filed on the abducted protectors?
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,102 posts)See post #14.
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)... they being unmarked could get someone who knows how to handle themselves and things get out of hand
GoCubsGo
(32,102 posts)Either way, the federal government is behind this. And, yes. I agree this is dangerous. It's like a fucking Gestapo.
Kaleva
(36,403 posts)Surely that would be known.
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superpatriotman
(6,254 posts)Keep kicked because 2020 is only half over
intheflow
(28,520 posts)Smells like Blackwater Domestic Ops.