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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,501 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:17 PM Jul 2020

Flouting scientific evidence, trade adviser Peter Navarro defends debunked covid treatment

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro defied scientific evidence Wednesday with his continued defense of hydroxychloroquine as an effective treatment for Covid-19.

But he declined to address President Donald Trump’s praise for a Houston-area physician who falsely touted the antimalarial medication as a coronavirus cure and has promoted other conspiracy theories related to alien DNA and demon sperm.

In an interview on CNN, Navarro argued “there are two gigantic sides” to the hydroxychloroquine debate — despite the Food and Drug Administration’s recent decision to withdraw its emergency-use authorization for the drug and the results of at least three new studies showing it is not helpful to Covid-19 patients.

Navarro, who is assisting with the administration’s coronavirus vaccine development efforts and coordination of the supply chain for personal protective equipment, has clashed repeatedly with public health officials including Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious disease expert, over the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine since the early days of the pandemic.

“I’m pleading with you and the American people to look at this drug again,” Navarro said. “Because I literally have tens of millions of tablets sitting in the Strategic National Stockpile that — if we were allowed under the doctors’ advice to get this stuff to people at the first sign of their symptoms — I guarantee you it would cut the amount of time of the symptoms, reduce the duration of the symptoms and save lives.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/flouting-scientific-evidence-white-house-trade-adviser-defends-debunked-covid-treatment/ar-BB17kslV?li=BBnb7Kz

Does this asshole own stock in the company?

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Flouting scientific evidence, trade adviser Peter Navarro defends debunked covid treatment (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 OP
If they would have dropped this 2 months ago Trenzalore Jul 2020 #1
They are miserable human beings....of course they are miserable spouses too! LOL (n/t) Moostache Jul 2020 #5
Send it to Russia soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
They must all be heavily invested in hydroxychororquine manufacturing. Arkansas Granny Jul 2020 #3
I've seen reports that the White House stockpiled a lot of HCQ pills gratuitous Jul 2020 #8
They Did ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #9
Thanks gratuitous Jul 2020 #11
Or Worse! ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #12
Coordinated media campaign by Trump and his flunkies on this thing greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #4
Why is CNN interviewing the idiot? LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #6
Send a case over to Gohmert! tanyev Jul 2020 #7
Apparently he doesn't understand what an experiment is Cicada Jul 2020 #10
Science doesn't care about your both siderism, Navarro. crickets Jul 2020 #13

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
1. If they would have dropped this 2 months ago
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jul 2020

The wouldn't look like such damn fools.

They don't even have to admit they were wrong. Just stop talking about it. They must be miserable spouses.

Arkansas Granny

(31,544 posts)
3. They must all be heavily invested in hydroxychororquine manufacturing.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jul 2020

Why else would they continue to push a drug that has been proven ineffective at best and harmful to some.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. I've seen reports that the White House stockpiled a lot of HCQ pills
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jul 2020

I'm guessing those pills are getting close to their expiration date, and the big investment is about to be wasted. Although considering the ethical standards of this administration, I can't really see them having any qualms about peddling expired medications.

ProfessorGAC

(65,459 posts)
9. They Did
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jul 2020

The ten million doses this idiot is talking about is what they have, plus inventory safety stock.
I doubt that this drug has a scientifically valid expiration, though.
Quinine derivatives have incredibly slow rates of entropy.
While the law might say pharmaceuticals must have an expiration date, the chemistry of these compounds would suggest efficacy for decades, if not centuries.
That is an amazingly stable structure. Only the ether linkage is particularly susceptible to attack by oxidation.
The ring structure needs something very, very electronegative to add or substitute or highly aggressive conditions.
If it worked, I would take it if it was 100 years old!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Thanks
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jul 2020

I wondered about the expiration date, but the websites I found only gave the usual warning of not taking drugs that had passed their expiration (or expiry, if you're Australian) date. They didn't specify how long HCQ tablets were good for.

Of course, considering the cumulative brainpower of this administration, they may have taken the pills out of their sealed containers and put them out in bowls like grandmas put out ribbon candy.

ProfessorGAC

(65,459 posts)
12. Or Worse!
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jul 2020

They added bleach, disinfectants, and hit it with uV light to make it more better.
Then everything I wrote is useless!

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
10. Apparently he doesn't understand what an experiment is
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jul 2020

Not a single experiment has found hydroxychloride useful. The studies finding it useful are all only correlational reports. The rooster crows and then the sun rises. Every single study finding the drug useful has that structure. And two big experiments, involving patients in several countries, found it completely useless for covid. Those studies randomly assigned the drug to some patients, but not others. With neither patients nor health care workers told which patients got the drug. That kind of study is called an experiment and the experimental method has been proven effective for hundreds of years. That Dr Navarro does not understand why experiments are better guides to truth than mere observations is shocking.

crickets

(25,993 posts)
13. Science doesn't care about your both siderism, Navarro.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jul 2020
I literally have tens of millions of tablets


Translation: Dumb donnie literally bought up tens of millions of doses of this drug to sell back to you, hoping he'd cornered the market on a quick fix. C'mon, beg us to let you buy it! (Even though your tax money paid for it in the first place...)

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