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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:35 AM May 2021

What crimes has Donald Trump committed?

Nobody can prove anything on Donald Trump. They just don't have the proof.

But, what crimes do you think he has committed?

Why is it so difficult to bring charges against him?


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Tax Fraud
1 (5%)
Bank Fraud
1 (5%)
Insurance Fraud
0 (0%)
Election Fraud
0 (0%)
Money Laundering
0 (0%)
Perjury
0 (0%)
Obstruction of Justice
0 (0%)
Extortion
0 (0%)
None of the above
0 (0%)
All of the above
18 (90%)
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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. He has confessed to, and even committed, many of his crimes on TV.
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:39 AM
May 2021

So I can't agree with the premise of your poll. We have proof of many of his crimes.

brooklynite

(95,131 posts)
2. How long did it take to issue an indictment in YOUR criminal justice career?
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:40 AM
May 2021
Why is it so difficult to bring charges against him?


Because "we know he did it" isn't the legal basis for an indictment. Unless you're claiming that Garland, James and Vance are incompetent, you're just going to have to wait.

Botany

(70,688 posts)
4. The question is what crimes hasn't he committed?
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:41 AM
May 2021

I think I am safe with cattle rustling and illegal gill netting.

NanceGreggs

(27,821 posts)
9. Well, I guess we're about to find out. n/t
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:54 AM
May 2021

On what basis have you determined that 'they just don't have the proof'?

Who said it was 'difficult to bring charges against him'? If the proof is there, there is no difficulty at all. Putting a legal case together takes time - so the question here is: do you want it fast and sloppy, or do you want it slow and iron-clad?

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
11. I was being facetious...
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:57 AM
May 2021

I hear that all the time. When, in fact, he has committed some of these crimes in public for all to see. But some people keep saying, it takes time to get the evidence...

NanceGreggs

(27,821 posts)
12. People keep saying ...
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:01 AM
May 2021

... it takes time to get the evidence because it takes time to get the evidence.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
13. And sometime the "evidence" looks so obvious that it is right in front of us...
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:05 AM
May 2021

But we are not accustomed to seeing it so starkly presented. The system does not seem capable of convicting Donald Trump of anything, it appears? And it's not because he is innocent. He plays the system.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
15. Evidence "looks obvious" to people on the sidelines who aren't responsible for bringing it in court
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:12 AM
May 2021

And the same people would also have an awful lot to say if a prematurely brought case resulted in a dismissal or acquittal.

But as you sit on those sidelines, constantly perseverating about what's not being done and how it won't ever happen, the people who actually have the responsibility are moving along, gathering evidence, presenting it to a grand jury and building their case. And at each step, I have no doubt that the armchair experts will continue to whine, criticize and second-guess. It's what they do.

NanceGreggs

(27,821 posts)
17. What you may 'see' as evidence' ...
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:31 AM
May 2021

... might not be accepted as evidence in a courtroom.

Yeah, Trump plays the system. So did Al Capone and John Gotti - who were both inevitably convicted and died in prison, despite having been declared 'untouchable' and 'Teflon' by the majority of citizens and the news media of the day.

FakeNoose

(32,973 posts)
10. I believe he's done them all, but I don't know if any can be proven
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:56 AM
May 2021

That's why I'm rooting for the County, State and Federal prosecutors.

blm

(113,152 posts)
14. There is proof. He was just good at dodging
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:08 AM
May 2021

accountability because of the illusion of great wealth he created.

The proof is there. The evidence is being pored over now.

And .... you forgot rape on your list.

Towlie

(5,333 posts)
16. "Why is it so difficult to bring charges against him?" - Because 50% of humanity have IQs below 100.
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:22 AM
May 2021

 
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