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Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:15 PM Jan 2022

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11 votes, 6 passes | Time left: Poll closed
Taiwan
5 (45%)
Ukraine
6 (55%)
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Not acceptable. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #1
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I chose Ukraine, because it is the one in most imminent threat. MoonRiver Jan 2022 #3
Both. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #4
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Usually don't participate in false binary choices... Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #5
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It's false to me...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #8
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Except it sort of is? nt Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #14
Perhaps not, but when the number one response is "none of the options provided" ... 11 Bravo Jan 2022 #33
Burgers? Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #9
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+100 Yes! skylucy Jan 2022 #23
this or that. TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #12
Why ask such a question? Doodley Jan 2022 #13
The answer is yes! Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #19
Or maybe? nt MerryHolidays Jan 2022 #22
The point is moot sarisataka Jan 2022 #15
It's a moo point. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #18
One of the best lines ever. phylny Jan 2022 #21
Ukraine - a shooting war that destroys Ukraine wouldn't damage the world economy Klaralven Jan 2022 #16
Cool post Bro FrankBooth Jan 2022 #17
It's baaaaaaaaaack.... Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #20
Chuckle! FSogol Jan 2022 #34
Should we ask which has the most obese people? hlthe2b Jan 2022 #24
C'mon... sarisataka Jan 2022 #29
.... Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #32
Pizza tenderfoot Jan 2022 #25
Exactly. Who doesn't like pizza? Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #28
Yes, but do love pizza more than you do burgers, tacos or fried chicken? Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #30
My fave brand tenderfoot Jan 2022 #31
Troll Pizza delivered by uberalles eats. Swede Jan 2022 #36
Neither. beaglelover Jan 2022 #26
No. hamsterjill Jan 2022 #27
For the purposes of the exercise, I'd choose Taiwan if I could only choose one. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #35
You forgot Poland Ptah Jan 2022 #37

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. Not acceptable.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jan 2022

We have to help both.

Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #1)

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
3. I chose Ukraine, because it is the one in most imminent threat.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:23 PM
Jan 2022

Phoenix61

(17,025 posts)
4. Both. nt
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:31 PM
Jan 2022

Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #4)

Wounded Bear

(58,771 posts)
5. Usually don't participate in false binary choices...
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:38 PM
Jan 2022

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)

Wounded Bear

(58,771 posts)
8. It's false to me...nt
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:42 PM
Jan 2022

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #8)

Tommy Carcetti

(43,227 posts)
14. Except it sort of is? nt
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jan 2022

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
33. Perhaps not, but when the number one response is "none of the options provided" ...
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:14 PM
Jan 2022

perhaps you might wish to consider the possibility that your poll is deeply flawed.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,227 posts)
9. Burgers?
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:43 PM
Jan 2022

This is like one of those posts on social media where they say, "You can only choose one!" and they show four pictures. Like of burgers, tacos, pizza and fried chicken.

I'm guessing in such a hypothetical situation, after you make your choice, the other three cease to exist.

In that case, I guess I choose burgers?

Sorry tacos, pizzas and fried chicken. It was nice knowing you. I'm so sorry. I really did like you.

Just not quite as much as burgers.

Response to Tommy Carcetti (Reply #9)

skylucy

(3,747 posts)
23. +100 Yes!
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jan 2022

TheBlackAdder

(28,246 posts)
12. this or that.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jan 2022

.




Lobster or cracked crab? Why not both?



.

Doodley

(9,174 posts)
13. Why ask such a question?
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jan 2022

Tommy Carcetti

(43,227 posts)
19. The answer is yes!
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jan 2022

Or maybe it's no?

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
22. Or maybe? nt
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jan 2022

sarisataka

(18,883 posts)
15. The point is moot
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jan 2022

Because in the real world it is not a binary choice. If one or both possibilities should occur we have many options.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,227 posts)
18. It's a moo point.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jan 2022

It's like a cow's opinion.

It doesn't matter.

It's moo.

(Not a huge fan of Friends, but that line will never not be funny to me.)

phylny

(8,393 posts)
21. One of the best lines ever.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jan 2022
 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
16. Ukraine - a shooting war that destroys Ukraine wouldn't damage the world economy
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jan 2022

While a shooting war that destroyed Taiwan would eliminate around 40% of semiconductor production and cause a global depression.

FrankBooth

(1,608 posts)
17. Cool post Bro
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jan 2022

And not at all a trolling, I mean, fishing, expedition.

Scrivener7

(51,080 posts)
20. It's baaaaaaaaaack....
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jan 2022

FSogol

(45,580 posts)
34. Chuckle!
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jan 2022

hlthe2b

(102,501 posts)
24. Should we ask which has the most obese people?
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jan 2022



(for the newly initiated today, there is a prior post context for the poster and thus this response)

sarisataka

(18,883 posts)
29. C'mon...
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jan 2022

Have a heart

Tommy Carcetti

(43,227 posts)
32. ....
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jan 2022

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
25. Pizza
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jan 2022

Midnight Writer

(21,843 posts)
28. Exactly. Who doesn't like pizza?
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jan 2022

We should do a poll.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,227 posts)
30. Yes, but do love pizza more than you do burgers, tacos or fried chicken?
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:10 PM
Jan 2022

YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
31. My fave brand
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jan 2022

Swede

(33,306 posts)
36. Troll Pizza delivered by uberalles eats.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jan 2022

nt

beaglelover

(3,497 posts)
26. Neither.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:06 PM
Jan 2022

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
27. No.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jan 2022

Kobayashi Maru. We need a James T. Kirk move!

Jedi Guy

(3,284 posts)
35. For the purposes of the exercise, I'd choose Taiwan if I could only choose one.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jan 2022

As Klaralven pointed out upthread, Taiwan's semiconductor production is vital to the world economy, not to mention national security. That production capacity can't be allowed to fall under the control of mainland China. The world grinds to a halt without those chips, and the shortage is already problematic without it turning into a way for China to strangle the rest of the world.

On the flipside, while Ukraine isn't a member of NATO, they're the next best thing. If the Russians move in, failing to respond is basically throwing open the door to Putin's aspiration to resurrect the Soviet Union. Eastern Europe and the Baltic States, many of which are members of NATO these days, are watching closely, as is the rest of the world. Apart from geopolitical and economic concerns, it's a credibility issue.

As a practical matter, defending both is feasible. It'd certainly get ugly, but there's a reason we pour so much money into our military. A global scenario like this is one of those reasons. If nukes weren't a factor in the equation, Russia's military is nothing to write home about based on what I've seen. China can't project force the way we can, either. Cyberwarfare is, of course, a concern with both nations, but if things got wildly out of hand, they'd come out of the scrap in worse shape than we would.

Hopefully that worst-case scenario remains a mere intellectual discussion rather than a real shooting war.

Ptah

(33,053 posts)
37. You forgot Poland
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jan 2022
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