The Glenn Greenwald/Tulsi Gabbard left, maybe.

Gray is promoting RFKjr as well as Williamson. Anything to damage Biden.

those who hate Democrats and actually want us to lose.

of her podcasts and do not see the attraction? She is not my version of "progressive", just seems to hate the DNC?

that you find any appeal ....
You were lost to us some time back.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217848988#post62

I'm not convinced that actual "conservative" Democrats - those who might like Joe Manchin, for example - are going to be fans of Williamson and the like. That poll suggests only that some self-identified conservative Dems are considering an alternative to Biden, though Williamson's stated positions so far are pretty standard progressive/Democratic. But she's a New Age self-help author who became famous as Oprah’s spiritual adviser (some folks thought Oprah herself should run, because... she's famous) who has never held any political office, served in the military, or been a cabinet officer. When I referred to the fringe of the fringe I wasn't suggesting an ideological far left fringe, more of the fringe of people who hate "the establishment," no matter what that is; her consistent theme is to "disrupt the system." A self-help guru who lives in a geodesic dome and consults crystals is the perfect caricature of what the GOP wants voters to think Democrats and progressives are, and they will use that caricature.

is claiming some evil pollster-Democratic conspiracy to keep her name from the results.

For those who've forgotten, many pollsters don't include results for the "candidates" who poll under 1%. Eventually there'll be dozens of them

Left splinters the Democratic Party then we deserve to loose.
It will be OVER. The fifty year project of the Republican right will have succeeded because they have always bet on the progressives’ factionalism, and inability to form a lasting coalition.

But the fact is that Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love. The problem is that they do not seem to be in love with Joe.
I am… but the young do not.

only ONE in FOUR showed up, or 27% to be exact.

And yes if more dont vote at this point then we do deserve to survive I guess, and it will be about survival. The right HATES us and wants us gone or dead.

She's a TicToc star and this week began her college tour - she's going for the youth.

RFK jr is going for Independents, Republicans, & Dems.

She's a Democratic candidate in good standing.

Isn't DU a place to promote Democratic candidates?

to that question. we also have all sorts of neat little emoji things ...

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Has zero govt experience, is apparently abusive to her staff.

Maybe in your world she’s an ideal Democrat. But not in the real world.

She is not a viable candidate, imho and I'm kinda left

My concern is she is NOT a viable candidate, yet attracts these fresh voters. I don’t like it.

I would love for her to sink into obscurity and NOT re-emerge like this, and I think she is a giant asshole for doing this.

I don't know who wrote that headline. Did you or did it come from a news service?

Marianne already has 20% of previous Biden voters under 30. She has kind of become a political star over on TicToc and she has just started a question & answer tour of colleges. She's going for the young voters.

Yes, they may have flooded TikTok with videos, but it's when people hear her talk with someone who isn't a supporter that they'll realize she's not a serious politician. If you look at her favorability polling in the last election, she peaked in January 2019 (net +12% favorable), and then fell to net negative figures after that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

RFK jr will get more votes than loonie-bird Williamson.
Color me... not worried

It will be hard for her to siphon any votes if she's not on the ballot.

She didn’t last that long in 2020.

She's going after the young voters on a college tour and she's a TicToc political star.

The poll by Echelon Insights asked those surveyed to indicate who they would vote for in the Democratic primary if the only choices were Biden and Williamson. Only three percent said they would definitely vote for Williamson, with 7 percent saying they "probably" would.

And when the poll asked respondents who they would support if Biden wasn't running, and presented a list of potential candidates, Williamson only gets 4%.

So, if its a two-person race, Biden v. Willliamson, she gets crushed. If others jump into the race, with or without Biden also in the race, Williamson falls far down in the pack.

And don't forget, her numbers went down the more people saw of her in the debates in 2020.

again

You know there is.

The young Democrats I follow on social media seem to be aware of this as well, and they are pushing back.

when all is said and done.

I very much doubt that.

Democrats would nominate someone else.

Each will get a woo.

she has zero chance of winning even a single primary unless she runs unopposed. any other Democrat would crush her.

She won't even get Jill Stein numbers.

The point is every. Single. motherfucking election matters. Optics matter. The new voters matter.

nomination in 2024.

RFK Jr's voice alone will turn people off. It's quite odd. Plus he's a nut job.

twelve years. His radio show used to be on Air America radio which declared bankruptcy in 2010 and his voice was the same back then. Odd.

It does make him kind of hard to listen to, but what he says is worse.

When she doesn't come close to winning the Democratic Primary, are the youth going to stay home?

They give me life. They are the ones talking to their peers about Williamson and the like.

They are not Stupid.

Young Democrats are absolute fire. What I am saying is they are pushing back on this idea of Williamson

The Intercept? Tik Tok? Really?

I don't think we should be worried about this.

It’s a phenomenon to me. The way I look at social media, is it’s all anthropology.

The Intercept is trash.

What actually got my attention was a very big and very influential Tiktokker talking about Marianne Williamson as through she had validity whatsoever.

Eh… You guys are probably right. I’ll blame it on political ptsd

I try hard to avoid the panic. I'm in FL so it's hard.

I’m in a kind of safety bubble here in Seattle. Florida is a harbinger though for sure

for my sanity.

Marianne Williamson.

They are popular enough to get national attention though

TicToc has 150 million American users.

Anyone gushing about her is a gullible chump, but that's the kind of mark she prefers.

...and my basic reaction to Williamson is "who?"

before I could do so... word for word!


Hell, in 1981, after Reagan was elected,
I typed letters to long-dead left-wing groups,
who never responded, requesting membership...

"the left" ??!!! I am standing there!!!


I was not able to view the 2020 Democratic presidential debates...
I understand that she participated,
but all I know is her name.


I will stand by President 'Fighting Joe Biden',
and vote for him in the primary.

I really don't mind when she interjects topics like love and spirit into politics.

But, when she targets the Democratic party, she's aiming at the wrong people.

She will not get a single delegate, will not get more than 3% of the primary vote, and will not “siphon off the youth vote”.

The Intercept also reports that Russia is winning the war against Ukraine.

Are you familiar with the history and motivations behind the Intercept?

Not the point.

Just a Tik Tok video.

My political hobby is to read data and follow trends. My concern is her capturing votes and influencing narrative/ She won’t win

My general feel is people, despite 2016, aren’t prepared for social media influencers in politics, although I see work to counteract it.

promises plus same old New York Times best-seller list self-help books. Okay then.

"How do you do, fellow kids?"

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Imagine what Faux would be saying about her if she were in the GE?

They might be "mean"ER and More "godless.

youth and prog bash (of course some drag the progs in for a hiding, they do so no matter what the subject is).

but one night in college, my girlfriend and her roommate came over to study..."

- Penthouse Forum

Oh, I'm sorry, this came from The Intercept...my bad

He was gorgeous

Which is why I didn’t post excerpts.

Let’s just say I find the idea of Williamson taken even a little bit seriously disturbing.

Biden will win. Neither of those favored by right wingers will win Nything. Nor will they spoil the election.

...I sensed this in my chakra.

such is coming up in the polls. They are really garnering all this support.... ". To then see them flame out. Herman Cain was climbing in the polls.... once.

I've pretty much been indifferent about her. But reading how she throws "love" almost into every sentence when being interviewed. But behind closed doors is apparently a tyrant to her staff, tells me she's become another grifter.