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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTacopina is basically trying to fire shotgun blasts into the reliability of Carroll's memory.
I won't share all of the NYT updates here...this one basically tells the story. He DID try to suggest Trump didn't know her at all, and Carroll's attorney held up the photo of her with Trump.
Hurubie Meko
April 27, 2023, 2:36 p.m. ET7 minutes ago
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Hurubie Meko
Trumps lawyer is slowly building his line of questioning to lead to the encounter inside Bergdorf Goodman. Hes asking Carroll about what floor of the store they were on, and about how long she was on the escalators.
Hurubie Meko
April 27, 2023, 2:38 p.m. ET6 minutes ago
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Hurubie Meko
Tacopina asked for details, such as whether she saw other people around them. Carroll said that she was likely paying attention mainly to Trump, because hes a very engaging conversationalist.
Lola Fadulu
April 27, 2023, 2:35 p.m. ET8 minutes ago
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Lola Fadulu
Tacopina is calling the jurys attention to Carrolls memory lapses, questioning her about the Bergdorf Goodman encounter. He asked whether she first saw Trump through a revolving door. I know its a revolving door, Carroll said. Tacopina then displayed a book excerpt that says that it could have been a regular door at that time, I cant recall.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/27/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)April 27, 2023, 2:43 p.m. ET4 minutes ago
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Hurubie Meko
Judge Kaplan appears to be losing patience with Tacopina, Trumps lawyer. As Tacopina kept asking Carroll similar questions, going back to details, Kaplan interjected, calling the questions argumentative and repetitive.
Lola Fadulu
April 27, 2023, 2:45 p.m. ET1 minute ago
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Lola Fadulu
Tacopina asked Carroll whether Trump used lingerie or another word to describe the gift for which he said he needed Carrolls advice. We will see whether Tacopina continues to demand such details once he gets to the part of Carrolls story where she and Trump are in the dressing room.
Hurubie Meko
April 27, 2023, 2:36 p.m. ET11 minutes ago
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Hurubie Meko
Trumps lawyer is slowly building his line of questioning to lead to the encounter inside Bergdorf Goodman. Hes asking Carroll about what floor of the store they were on, and about how long she was on the escalators.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/27/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial
GenXer47
(1,204 posts)Tacopenis keeps focusing on how deserted the store was, hoping the jury will doubt her story because there were no witnesses.
But a place where there are no witnesses is where sexual predators get to work. This is what I'd be thinking if I were listening.
Twitter feed with minute-by-minute transcripts:
https://twitter.com/InnerCityPress
getagrip_already
(14,971 posts)Often in tramatic events you don't remember a lot of the general details but instead remember very specific details about the worst part of it.
You forget the fluff and have a searing memory of the painful parts.
They can testify it is completely normal.
Unfortunately rape victims ge brutalied on the stand routinely, which is one of the reasons they won't come forward.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...I do have a few PTSD-worthy moments in my life. I remember the incidents themselves with cinematic clarity but guarantee I cannot tell you what I had for lunch on those days.
It depends on how sympathetic / empathetic the jury is to Ms. Carroll's re-telling of events, her conviction in relating what happened. I don't see Tacopina as a superstar. He's a thug, being paid to be a thug. I don't think the jury is going to expect Ms. Carroll to fully "rise above that," but I think they will look for consistency and conviction in her responses.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)April 27, 2023, 3:03 p.m. ET3 minutes ago
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Lola Fadulu
Tacopina asked Carroll whether she screamed for help. Im not a screamer, Carroll said. You cant beat up on me for not screaming.
Lola Fadulu
April 27, 2023, 3:05 p.m. ET1 minute ago
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Lola Fadulu
Tacopina said he wasnt beating up on her, and Caroll replied that women often keep silent about attacks because they fear being asked what they could have done to stop one. He raped me whether I screamed or not! Carroll said loudly.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/27/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial
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Novara
(5,871 posts)You cant beat up on me for not screaming, she said.
Im not beating up on you, Tacopina replied. But Carroll wasnt done.
One of the reasons women dont come forward is because theyre always asked, 'Why didnt you scream? Some women scream, some women dont. It keeps women silent, she said.
After more back and forth, Carrolls voice broke with frustration and emotion.
He raped me whether I screamed or not!
He's of course blaming the victim. She sounds like she is a very strong witness.
Ocelot II
(115,987 posts)a mobster's mouthpiece. I saw him on tv for a few minutes and loathed him almost immediately.