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Somehow surgically remove (Original Post) Pantagruel Oct 2023 OP
I don't think that it would eliminate hate. CentralMass Oct 2023 #1
"eliminate hate " Pantagruel Oct 2023 #2
Well, to be fair, ... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #19
Dream on. People always have reason to hate. The enslavement of blacks had nothing to do with religion and most of the Native Americans were killed, Wonder Why Oct 2023 #3
"nothing to do with religion " Pantagruel Oct 2023 #6
Try again. They may have claimed religion in some cases but it was greed, greed, greed - for gold, for cheap workers, for an easy life, for their territory. Wonder Why Oct 2023 #7
Having them come up with a harder--less manipulating excuse might have helped. Gore1FL Oct 2023 #12
Africans weren't "heathens" to the Dutch when they began to ship them west, that was greed uponit7771 Oct 2023 #9
Man isn't that the truth! edisdead Oct 2023 #4
If only everybody had my religion! stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #5
Removing religion doesn't remove humanity uponit7771 Oct 2023 #8
One of my favorite quotes (which I've often posted on this board): lastlib Oct 2023 #10
Florida man guilty of murdering wife who refused to appear on "Zombie House Renovations" TV show struggle4progress Oct 2023 #11
Hate this passive voice crap redqueen Oct 2023 #18
Believer wars are the bane of the planet. ancianita Oct 2023 #13
Dig around in the graves of Siberia TheProle Oct 2023 #14
Ya think TexLaProgressive Oct 2023 #15
Millions were slaughtered in the 20th century by states that largely banned religion. tritsofme Oct 2023 #16
There's been plenty of violence committed in the name of non-religious ideologies. Crunchy Frog Oct 2023 #17
You do know that the Soviet Union was atheistic. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #20
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
2. "eliminate hate "
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 07:25 PM
Oct 2023

No, but sharply reduce a major factor around the globe. Maybe it's not the intrinsic beliefs that need to be removed but the proselytization of your "faith"?

 
19. Well, to be fair, ...
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 01:15 AM
Oct 2023

...this thread is an example of proselytization for your own religious beliefs and worldview, is it not?



Maybe it's not the intrinsic beliefs that need to be removed but the proselytization of your "faith"?

Wonder Why

(3,504 posts)
3. Dream on. People always have reason to hate. The enslavement of blacks had nothing to do with religion and most of the Native Americans were killed,
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 07:33 PM
Oct 2023

not because of their religion, but because of the greed of the conquerors. And that included Spanish, Islamic, Portuguese, Dutch, German, French, English, Australian, and American.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
6. "nothing to do with religion "
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 08:06 PM
Oct 2023

Virtually everyone you list used the excuse of "saving" the heathens and bringing them to a better spiritual place.
More crimes committed in the name of religion.

Wonder Why

(3,504 posts)
7. Try again. They may have claimed religion in some cases but it was greed, greed, greed - for gold, for cheap workers, for an easy life, for their territory.
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 08:10 PM
Oct 2023

Gore1FL

(21,223 posts)
12. Having them come up with a harder--less manipulating excuse might have helped.
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 09:04 PM
Oct 2023

Religion has always been used to accumulate power and riches. Scaring people with a painful eternity has a great brain-washing effect as we have seen throughout history.

edisdead

(1,982 posts)
4. Man isn't that the truth!
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 07:34 PM
Oct 2023

This planet suffers so much from people being led and told how to live by people that talk to and worship invisible people (entities?)

It is unreal.

lastlib

(23,505 posts)
10. One of my favorite quotes (which I've often posted on this board):
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 08:37 PM
Oct 2023
(H)istory records the tragic fact that men have cut each other's throats over what was to become of them after their throats had been cut.
--Walter Parker Stacy

'Twas ever thus.

Imagine there's no Heaven,
It's easy if you try;
No Hell below us,
Above us, only sky.
Imagine all the people
Living for today.

Imagine there's no country,
It isn't hard to do;
Nothing to kill or die for,
And no religion, too.
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace.

You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.....

--John Lennon

struggle4progress

(118,384 posts)
11. Florida man guilty of murdering wife who refused to appear on "Zombie House Renovations" TV show
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 08:43 PM
Oct 2023

A jury convicted a Florida man of first-degree murder Wednesday in the 2018 strangling and beating death of his wife after she refused to appear on a home renovation reality TV show ...

“Tronnes had spent thousands of dollars on renovations and had hopes of appearing on the reality television show, ‘Zombie House Renovations.’ This led to the couple experiencing problems in their marriage,” prosecutors said. “Cooper-Tronnes’ refusal to appear on the show upset Tronnes to the point that it led to her murder” ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-man-found-guilty-murdering-wife-refused-go-home-renovation-tv-rcna121290

redqueen

(115,113 posts)
18. Hate this passive voice crap
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 05:35 PM
Oct 2023
“Cooper-Tronnes’ refusal to appear on the show upset Tronnes to the point that it led to her murder”


No, he murdered her because he didn't like her choice not to appear on the show.

TheProle

(2,237 posts)
14. Dig around in the graves of Siberia
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 09:14 PM
Oct 2023

And Cambodia and of all those beat to death with a little red book…

No god needed.

TexLaProgressive

(12,171 posts)
15. Ya think
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 05:26 PM
Oct 2023

As a child I read the following and never forgot it.
"If we were to wake up some morning and find that everyone was the same race, creed and color, we would find some other cause for prejudice by noon."

- George Aiken
We humans are hardwired to fear the other. It can be overcome, but it's always lying under the skin.


I don't ever feel that way now, but twice in my late teens and in my early twenties I was perfectly capable of murdering someone.

Maybe I'm older and wiser or just too tired to get into a murderous passion. I hope it's the former.

tritsofme

(17,508 posts)
16. Millions were slaughtered in the 20th century by states that largely banned religion.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 05:31 PM
Oct 2023

So I’m thinking no.

Crunchy Frog

(26,739 posts)
17. There's been plenty of violence committed in the name of non-religious ideologies.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 05:31 PM
Oct 2023

Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot come to mind.

Remove religion and people will just come up with other excuses.

It also doesn't help to scapegoat religious people who do not participate in or endorse violence.

Big Blue Marble

(5,168 posts)
20. You do know that the Soviet Union was atheistic.
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 01:39 AM
Oct 2023

As Is Communist China. As expansionistic and domineering as one could imagine.

Behind religious wars are self-righteousness and greed. as well as the need to control.

These are our basic and dangerous human emotions.

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