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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow, just wow! The Hartmann Report...
https://hartmannreport.com/p/saturday-report-112523-speaking-of'Americas largest newspapers are actively working against our democracy. The Columbia Journalism Review, arguably the premiere watchdog of American news reporting, is out with a scathing indictment of political coverage in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Because these newspapers are so widely read and respected, they tend to set the agenda and tone for most other reporting in the United States, and what the Review found was shocking:
Both emphasized the horse race and campaign palace intrigue, stories that functioned more to entertain readers than to educate them on essential differences between political parties. By the numbers, of four hundred and eight articles on the front page of the Times during the period we analyzed, about halftwo hundred nineteenwere about domestic politics. A generous interpretation found that just ten of those stories explained domestic public policy in any detail; only one front-page article in the lead-up to the midterms really leaned into discussion about a policy matter in Congress: Republican efforts to shrink Social Security. Of three hundred and ninety-three front-page articles in the Post, two hundred fifteen were about domestic politics; our research found only four stories that discussed any form of policy. The Post had no front-page stories in the months ahead of the midterms on policies that candidates aimed to bring to the fore or legislation they intended to pursue. Instead, articles speculated about candidates and discussed where voter bases were leaning.
This is the exact same type of reporting that led up to the 2016 election and brought us Donald Trump as president. Its almost a cliche these days to complain about the infotainment we see in TV and radio news reporting that has come about in the wake of Reagan ending enforcement of the Fairness Doctrine, but to see this same type of horserace coverage passing as news on the front pages of the nations largest newspapers is, frankly, a crime against our democracy. For voters to make intelligent decisions about candidates, they must be well-informed. Sadly, that is very much not what is happening today in America, and it bodes ill for the 2024 elections...'
Me: (bold added)
bdamomma
(64,069 posts)and disinformation is social media, it's all about confusing the citizenry about what party most reflects our values and where we want this country to be.
GOTV
Bayard
(22,445 posts)And don't realize how much of it is bunk.
Lovie777
(12,597 posts)hopefully this article reaches more. It's basically a reality check.
It further confirms that corporate media polls are the shits comprised of endless lies along with attacks on President Biden, VP Harris and the Democratic Party.
Corporate media is there with them, all of which are putting Democracy at risk.
Lonestarblue
(10,394 posts)And thus ensues the distrust in government and institutions because the media is publishing entertainment instead of following journalism ethics and norms.
Traildogbob
(8,996 posts)2naSalit
(87,440 posts)gab13by13
(21,837 posts)now that Nicolle Wallace is on leave. I'm down to getting my news from Stephanie Miller and Thom.
I may have to watch a little bit of Laurence O'Donnell when he has good guests on.
rubbersole
(6,836 posts)..from 9am-3pm EST. You can stay informed and avoid tons of bullshit. Stephanie will make you laugh and Thom will give you facts and the back story. Saves you a lot of time and unnecessary angst.
redqueen
(115,113 posts)Corporate influence of reporting in the M$M is not a new thing, hopefully in the coming year, many more USAmericans will learn more about it and start critically reading and watching the news
We need to update the laws. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 has been a blight on this country's media for too long.
jaxexpat
(6,995 posts)Just a few facts about it for your perusal.
Both chambers had Republican majorities for the first time since the 83rd Congress in 1953. Newton Leroy Gingrich served as speaker of the House of Representatives from 1995 to 1998.
The bill was a relaxation of cross-ownership rules and a near-total rollback of New Deal market regulation. Looking back five years after the bill was passed, the Consumers Union reported that wire to wire competition, the reason that sold the bill, had not succeeded as legislators had hoped.
Warren J. Sirota, criticized the media's coverage of the bill. He wrote that: "Rightfully, this major change in the nation's regulatory structure is receiving considerable media and press attention. Unfortunately...most of the attention is going to the wrong issue, the Decency Act." The Latin American writer Eduardo Galeano commented..."Never have so many been held incommunicado by so few."
Hey, sex sells, right? Boldened script excerpted from Wikipedia. Thanks, Wickey and say hello to Winnie.
sop
(10,488 posts)The Telecommunications Act of '96 was supposed to increase competition in the media, media consolidation has only increased.
redqueen
(115,113 posts)From the wiki cited above:
sop
(10,488 posts)"...to provide for a pro-competitive, de-regulatory national policy framework designed to accelerate rapidly private sector deployment of advanced telecommunications and information technologies and services to all Americans by opening all telecommunications markets to competition..."
That's what it was supposed to accomplish. However, as with all de-regulatory legislation passed by Congress promising to increase competition and lower consumer costs, it did the opposite.
redqueen
(115,113 posts)"promising to increase competition and lower consumer costs, it did the opposite." By design
modrepub
(3,517 posts)The M$M would not be on the receiving end of billions of dollars in political advertising. Election time for the M$M is analogous to the Holiday shopping season for retailers.
Jacob2
(6 posts)July 22, 2023
These days, Mr. Bezos knows more about the news business. And in recent months, he has become more involved with The Posts operations, stepping in as staff morale cratered and the business struggled.
Mr. Bezos has said he wants The Post to be profitable, but it is unlikely to reach that target this year.
The Post is on a pace to lose about $100 million in 2023, according to two people with knowledge of the companys finances; two other people briefed on the situation said the company was expecting to miss its forecasts for ad revenue this year. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal financial matters. The Post has struggled to increase the number of its paying customers since the 2020 election, when its digital subscriptions peaked at three million. It now has around 2.5 million.
A spokesperson for Mr. Bezos declined to make him available for an interview. Patty Stonesifer, The Posts interim chief executive, said Mr. Bezos was happy with every dollar invested in the company. One person familiar with Mr. Bezos plans said The Post had planned for 2023 to be a year for investment.
https://archive.ph/iw630 or https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/22/business/media/jeff-bezos-washington-post.html
Goddessartist
(1,998 posts)I watch him, Al Jazeera English, BBC, some of MSNBC, Stephanie, and a few others. I read mostly.
It's very true, what he's saying. And pretty blatant.
CrispyQ
(36,695 posts)Because, you know, we have so many progressive outlets for our liberal voices.
I've always loved Thom since I read The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight. I even plowed through Unequal Protection one summer.
Ha ha. I'm responding to your 666th post.
Goddessartist
(1,998 posts)I'll have to pick those up! Though mostly I spend my time on art....about to do that just now!
Thank you for responding to that magickal post!
Cackle...
CrispyQ
(36,695 posts)I worked as a cashier in college & three times the customers' total came to $6.66 & all three times the customers added something to the order to change the total.
There's an artists group on DU. Some talented people here share their work.
Goddessartist
(1,998 posts)I've shared a little there....soon to share again! And I love looking and commenting on the art! Need to step over there later!
Off to art!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,509 posts)The OP is, though, really about the Columbia Journalism Review - Hartmann is just giving a one paragraph commentary on it (with a breathless clickbait lede of "actively working against our democracy" - really, they are selling coverage of little or no use, not "actively working against our democracy" ).
Here's the original:
Seven years ago, in the wake of the 2016 presidential election, media analysts rushed to explain Donald Trumps victory. Misinformation was to blame, the theory went, fueled by Russian agents and carried on social networks. But as researchers, we wondered if fascination and fear over fake news had led people to underestimate the influence of traditional journalism outlets. After all, mainstream news organizations remain an important part of the media ecosystemtheyre widely read and watched; they help set the agenda, including on social networks. We decided to look at what had been featured on the printed front page of the New York Times in the three months leading up to Election Day. Of a hundred and fifty articles that discussed the campaign, only a handful mentioned policy; the vast majority covered horse race politics or personal scandals. Most strikingly, the Times ran ten front-page stories about Hillary Clintons email server. If voters had wanted to educate themselves on issues, we concluded, they would not have learned much from reading the Times.
We didnt suggest that the election coverage in the Times was any worse than what appeared in other major outlets, so much as it was typical of a broader failure of mainstream journalism. But we did expect, or at least hope, that in the years that followed, the Times would conduct a critical review of its editorial policies. Was an overwhelming focus on the election as a sporting contest the best way to serve readers? Was obsessive attention to Clintons email server really justified in light of the innumerable personal, ethical, and ultimately criminal failings of Trump? It seemed that editors had a responsibility to rethink both the volume of attention paid to certain subjects as well as their framing.
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Exit polls indicated that Democrats cared most about abortion and gun policy; crime, inflation, and immigration were top of mind for Republicans. In the Times, Republican-favored topics accounted for thirty-seven articles, while Democratic topics accounted for just seven. In the Post, Republican topics were the focus of twenty articles and Democratic topics accounted for fifteena much more balanced showing. In the final days before the election, we noticed that the Times, in particular, hit a drumbeat of fear about the economythe worries of voters, exploitation by companies, and anxieties related to the Federal Reserveas well as crime. Data buried within articles occasionally refuted the fear-based premise of a piece. Still, by discussing how much people were concerned about inflation and crimeand reporting in those stories that Republicans benefited from a sense of alarmthe Times suggested that inflation and crime were historically bad (they were not) and that Republicans had solutions to offer (they did not).
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What appears in a newspaper is less a reflection of what is happening in the world than what a news organization chooses to tell about what is happeningan indicator of values. Last year, for instance, the Times decided to heavily cover the Russian invasion of Ukraineunderstandable, to be surebut also largely ignored policy implications of the midterm election on the war, as Republicans were threatening to block military aid. Abortion rights were clearly critical to the midterms (with potential impact on laws and judges), whereas crime rates were essentially irrelevant (with no discernible policy hanging in the balance), yet the Times chose to publish twice as many articles on crime (a topic generally favored by Republicans) as on abortion (a topic key to Democrats). The paper also opted to emphasize inflation, rather than job or wage growth, in economic coverageanother choice that catered to Republicans. The Times provided admirably extensive coverage of potential threats to democracy, but in general, midterms coverage didnt engage much with the dangers posed to the integrity of the election.
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/election-politics-front-pages.php
CrispyQ
(36,695 posts)TwilightZone
(25,614 posts)One that is much too often ignored here, in favor of clickbait and hyperbole.
As for RT, the excuse that other outlets aren't available is nonsense. Providing legitimacy to state-owned propaganda is never OK, and no one on the left should be using it as a platform. People are willing to forgive pretty much anything as long as it fits an agenda.
Septua
(2,293 posts)And what percentage of the near half of voters wanting Trump back in office, read the Times or the Post or even care about specific policy positions?
The "palace intrigue" is the story...the 2018, 2020, 2022 elections were choices between democracy and autocracy, as will be the 2024 election. I think the Times and Post are trying to accent that "policy" and hope they continue to do so.
usonian
(10,207 posts)Pay No Way
For distortions and manufactured news.
LET THEM EAT FAKE.
Money.
marybourg
(12,669 posts)CrispyQ
(36,695 posts)japple
(9,913 posts)Democracy Now https://www.democracynow.org/ and Salon https://www.salon.com/ Of course, I always come to DU first.
usonian
(10,207 posts)I use two link aggregators: DU and Hacker News (https://news.ycombinator.com/newest)
I heavily filter DU because so much of it is flame wars lately. So be it.
Hacker News is heavily tech and science, but since it is owned by a VC, and appeals to startup people and devs of every sort, it has a wide variety of programming, science, tech in the news (AI, SBF) and so on, plus a few lounge kinds of articles, daily.
Not for the tech faint of heart. It was my living, and I actuallty read about 20 articles a day out of some 200 or so posted.
Both DU and Hacker News are moderated to keep the self-promotion and flame wars down. DU, a little less so these days.
_____
These link aggregators offer a wide variety of information, in text form, so its low emotional response (compared to TV and video
. I am going to find browser extensions that not only stop autoplay but kills the videos altogether)
I dont see any one site providing windows to such a wide variety ot information, pick and choose outside of aggregators.
As for modding, I have no block rules on Hacker News, though some RW links show up. I just ignore them, as the format only allows one line descriptions and the mods ask people to provide useful info on that line, not just MUST SEE or WOW as some people do here.
I was thinking of collecting those 20 or so links that intrigue me, and sharing them, but collecting links is tedious, and I should write some script to automate the process after dragging URLS to a folder.
Being able to do some quick programming (i.e. in bash, perl, etc) is pretty empowering. For example, I can convert an entire folder of webp files to jpeg or png with one command.
LearnedHand
(3,423 posts)Love DU of course; really love Hacker News! Sometimes I just screenshot the article titles because they are so perfect. And hilarious.
usonian
(10,207 posts)I found a trove of interesting stuff on HN this morning, but I decided to hit the great outdoors and clear more brush that was obscuring manzanita trees (which are gorgeous) and that took most of the day.
Ill try to post some tomorrow, maybe in the afternoon.
Try the best link.
https://news.ycombinator.com/best
It shows the top rated recent posts. I sometimes miss a real good one in all the noise (heck, there are over 200 posts a day). So right now, I found a raw photo editing package, Ansel. Top of the list.
Ill have to boot up linux to run it right now. No problemo. I have an older mac mini that should do fine.
I get such great results with the mac Preview app (and now and then GIMP for advanced editing) that I havent used DarkTable or RawTherapee yet. Those might be more than I need, so Ill check out Ansel a bit later on.
Photographer with a chain saw. I edit scenes with chainsaws. Good for annoying foreground removal.
LearnedHand
(3,423 posts)Based on that review.
LearnedHand
(3,423 posts)usonian
(10,207 posts)❤️
ArkansasDemocrat1
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Hermit-The-Prog
(33,882 posts)[ ... ]
These numbers are staggering in terms of the complete retreat they represent from issues-orientated campaign coverage. Just eight years ago, the last time both parties nominated new candidates for the White House, the network newscasts devoted 220 minutes to issues coverage, compared to only 32 minutes so far this year. (CBS Evening News went from 119 minutes of issues coverage in 2008 to 16 this year.)
Note that during the Republican primary season alone, the networks spent 333 minutes focusing on Donald Trump. Yet for all of 2016, they have set aside just one-tenth of that for issue reporting.
And look at this: Combined, the three network newscasts have slotted 100 minutes so far this year for reporting on Hillary Clintons emails while she served as secretary of state, but just 32 minutes for all issues coverage. (NBCs Nightly News has spent 31 minutes on the emails this year; just eight minutes on issues.)
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LittleGirl
(8,298 posts)Never had The post. I read DU.
orleans
(34,164 posts)something they printed was so trump one sided and it pissed me off so much that i was done paying for their bullshit.
speak easy
(9,405 posts)Policy does not change very often - there is little news.
2. In the case of Trump there is no policy. It is all intrigue.
3. Speculation - what a second Trump Presidency would mean for America, belongs in the Opinion column. There is no way to 'inform' the public - Only to present speculative analysis.
thesquanderer
(12,029 posts)Though whether a lot of these horse-race polls are really "news" is questionable as well... but that's a different argument.
These papers do occasionally run features that go into policy with some depth. But as you say, policy doesn't change much day-to-day. If they run a feature on health care policy one day, they're obviously not going to run it again the next day. They probably won't run another until there's some new major public policy debate about it. What do people expect of a daily newspaper? Mainly they are the proverbial first draft of history. You can't blame them for not being great at something they weren't designed to be in the first place. There's a reason there's the saying that nothing is as useless as yesterday's newspaper.
Luckily we have the internet, where you can find all the policy detail you want... including archives of the policy pieces these papers do occasionally do. It may not be perfect either, but that's not the fault of the Times or the Post. This is blaming them for a not solving a problem they weren't designed to solve.
reACTIONary
(5,815 posts)Jean Genie
(301 posts)Stomach turning, or what? Main Stream Media, my arse. Manipulative Shits Media!
DC77
(107 posts)The Fairness Doctrine is not what most people say it is. Broadcaster Thom Hartmann regularly emphasizes this point and explains what it actually is when callers call in with comments over it like it would solve everything. It has, however, led to this corporate infotainment environment by removing the requirement of offering contrasting views on matters of public importance.
Quoting Thom Hartmann because the main way that stations programmed in the public interest was by producing news, real, actual, non-infotainment news, once Reagan lifted that requirement, the news divisions of the various networks came under the sway of ratings and profits.
orleans
(34,164 posts)reinstating it would essentially solve this corporate media problem/bias.
barbaraann
(9,179 posts)The New York Times' first article about Hitler's rise is absolutely stunning
By Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Updated Mar 3, 2016, 10:44am EST
On November 21, 1922, the New York Times published its very first article about Adolf Hitler. It's an incredible read especially its assertion that "Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so violent or genuine as it sounded." This attitude was, apparently, widespread among Germans at the time; many of them saw Hitler's anti-Semitism as a ploy for votes among the German masses.
Times correspondent Cyril Brown spends most of the piece documenting the factors behind Hitler's early rise in Bavaria, Germany, including his oratorical skills. For example: "He exerts an uncanny control over audiences, possessing the remarkable ability to not only rouse his hearers to a fighting pitch of fury, but at will turn right around and reduce the same audience to docile coolness."
But the really extraordinary part of the article is the three paragraphs on anti-Semitism. Brown acknowledges Hitler's vicious anti-Semitism as the core of Hitler's appeal and notes the terrified Jewish community was fleeing from him but goes on to dismiss it as a play to satiate the rubes (bolding mine):
He is credibly credited with being actuated by lofty, unselfish patriotism. He probably does not know himself just what he wants to accomplish. The keynote of his propaganda in speaking and writing is violent anti-Semitism. His followers are nicknamed the "Hakenkreuzler." So violent are Hitler's fulminations against the Jews that a number of prominent Jewish citizens are reported to have sought safe asylums in the Bavarian highlands, easily reached by fast motor cars, whence they could hurry their women and children when forewarned of an anti-Semitic St. Bartholomew's night.
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https://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8016017/ny-times-hitler
LakeArenal
(28,997 posts)I also saw (on DU I think) that suggested not following polls and pundits: and, instead, watch the book makers in Vegas.
It was very interesting take where Bidens odds are better than dumps.
I think something like 8 points better for Joe.
gab13by13
(21,837 posts)I am a dog on a bone, bashing polls. Polls are used for propaganda. I do believe in exit polling and when exit polling doesn't jive with actual results then I start asking, was voting done on ES&S machines? There were anomalies in 3 states the last election.
TwilightZone
(25,614 posts)The oddsmakers had Trump as an overwhelming favorite from election 2016 until mid-2019.
They weren't any more accurate early in the cycle than the polls were. There's no reason to believe they're any more accurate at this point in this cycle, either.
LiberalArkie
(15,752 posts)Blue Owl
(50,905 posts)gab13by13
(21,837 posts)If you want to be informed he is a must. If you just want to follow the right wing narrative and comment negatively on it then by all means do cable news.
Elessar Zappa
(14,229 posts)We have to find a way to win, despite the press narrative.
h2ebits
(654 posts)Stuart G
(38,512 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)reACTIONary
(5,815 posts)... that this study was conducted on reporting just before the election and only covered the front page. Of course these stories are going to be focused on the horse race - this is the final lap, the last inning, the end round. It's the horse race, the pitch and swing, and the blow by blow that everyone wants to read about. And its the FRONT PAGE - you don't put detailed policy analysis and opinion pieces on the front page. You put the latest, most recent, twists, turns, maneuvers and stumbles on the front page. All those policy and opinion pieces go in the back - which is where they belong.
So, we lost an election, and it was a real loss, with bad consequences. So we need to find someone or something - most assuredly someone other than ourselves - to blame. It MUST be the newspapers! Or maybe Facebook. Yep, that's the ticket!
orangecrush
(19,794 posts)Jacson6
(392 posts)It does this in almost all political issues. They don't write or talk about the substance of the issue, just that politician X said this and Politician Y said that. Rarely will they explain the contents of a Presidential order or congressional bill or the consequences of them.
CousinIT
(9,342 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,427 posts)A tradition of comforting the comfortable and afflicting the afflicted in order to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217421269
burrowowl
(17,688 posts)US news media is not the best in the world!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,959 posts)Commercial newspapers in a competitive capitalist economy exist to turn a profit first, inform readers of whats important second. They are not actively trying to destroy democracy, it is a byproduct of selling shit stories of commercial interest to their readers.
It isnt the newspapers, its the unfair arena of competition. More money buys better media, so the most money wins the media battle in most cases.
That wasnt the case before Ronald Reagan and the Republicans ditched the Fairness Doctrine, which put the interests of the public over the interests of greedy capitalists. Now, any moron with $44 billion, for example, can simply buy an ideological competitor and run it into the ground. There is no need of fairness when fairness is measured in $$$.
Trashing the Post and Times is wont make the rules of capitalism different, and ignores whatever benefit many readers get from them.
MerryBlooms
(11,789 posts)I'm the only one that knows who Jordan, Boebert, etc, is... Gaetz, 3 toes, etc, not a single name is recognized. We care here on DU and get all worked up, but average folks in southern Oregon, eastern Oregon, no idea who you're talking about. My guess is every other blue stae rural area is the very same. These voters don't care about this stuff. We need a Dem ground assault and we need it Big time!